Official 2022-23 Offseason Hot Stove Thread

[OhtaniSan]

2 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Does the Rodon deal change anybody’s prediction for what Swanson will get?

I want to guess 10/200 or 8/200

[Warfarin]

5 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Does the Rodon deal change anybody’s prediction for what Swanson will get?

Not really.  I think Rodon's market was pretty narrow.  Teams are generally more risk averse when it comes to giving out long-term deals for pitchers (as compared to position players).  I think we see more of the higher AAV, shorter term deals for SPs these days.  I am thinking Swanson will end up close to, but just short of, 200 million.

[Warfarin]

I like Rodon when healthy, but he seems like a pretty big health risk given that shoulder.  The Yankees have tons of money, so they can probably absorb that kind of risk, but I think a lot of other teams may not be in position to risk Rodon being out for awhile with shoulder problems.

[totdprods]

I’d read that Eovaldi really hoped to go back to New York. Now that the Yanks have Rodon, that door might be closed. Given the Morosi report, Heyman’s Bassitt mention, and the glaring need and apparent money remaining, sure seems the Halos will be in a strong spot to sign him. Also get East Coast vibes from him though. Kluber too. 

Can’t help but think they’re being aggressive and the Gray/Maeda/Carrasco trade speculation is being in part triggered by the Angels hunting.

Personally, I would not be against Lugo either. Would just hope there were complimentary adds to the pen and bench if we went “cheap” for 6th SP.

Edited December 16, 2022 by totdprods

[Warfarin]

5 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I’d read that Eovaldi really hoped to go back to New York. Now that the Yanks have Rodon, that door might be closed. Given the Morosi report, Heyman’s Bassitt mention, and the glaring need and apparent money remaining, sure seems the Halos will be in a strong spot to sign him. Also get East Coast vibes from him though. Kluber too. 

Can’t help but think they’re being aggressive and the Gray/Maeda/Carrasco trade speculation is being in part triggered by the Angels hunting.

Personally, I would not be against Lugo either. Would just hope there were complimentary adds to the pen and bench if we went “cheap” for 6th SP.

It'll be interesting to see what they do.  I think Lugo or someone like him is more likely.  If we sign Eovaldi to, say, a 3 year deal, then we effectively have 5 SPs locked up for 3+ years (Anderson, Eovaldi, Sandoval, Detmers, Suarez), multiple promising young SP prospects (Bush, Silseth, maybe Bachman, etc), and of course, Ohtani, who we hope to lock up for awhile.

I am assuming they would opt for someone on a 1 year deal to be more flexible in their future plans, but I wouldn't complain if we got Eovaldi, who I think could provide very good value and has SP2 type upside.

[mmc]

 

[Rico]

Are we going to bring in another catcher?

[BTH]

16 minutes ago, mmc said:

 

I wondered if the Angels might play on Narváez after losing out on Contreras, but that possibility is obviously gone now.

[BTH]

30 minutes ago, totdprods said:

I’d read that Eovaldi really hoped to go back to New York. Now that the Yanks have Rodon, that door might be closed. Given the Morosi report, Heyman’s Bassitt mention, and the glaring need and apparent money remaining, sure seems the Halos will be in a strong spot to sign him. Also get East Coast vibes from him though. Kluber too. 

I could see Eovaldi going back to Boston, if the money is similar.

[mmc]

 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Trendon said:

I wondered if the Angels might play on Narváez after losing out on Contreras, but that possibility is obviously gone now.

I think the Halos are done with the FA market now. We’ll see if there is a trade or two in the works 

[Docwaukee]

32 minutes ago, Jason said:

I think the Halos are done with the FA market now. We’ll see if there is a trade or two in the works 

I think they're gonna sign a SP and maybe another pen piece.  

[Condor1984]

On 11/21/2022 at 5:28 PM, Blarg said:

 

Urshela has played all of 7 innings at 1st base his entire MLB career. It would be stupid to start him there over Walsh.  

He moves better and has better range and glove in general than Walsh. To say it is stupid is a gross overstatement.

 

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

I think they're gonna sign a SP and maybe another pen piece.  

I think we have four more pieces coming, maybe five. SS, SP, RP, RP, C, 4th OFer.
They may not sign a 4th outfielder, but I think the others are locks. 

[Angelsfan1984]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

I think we have four more pieces coming, maybe five. SS, SP, RP, RP, C, 4th OFer.
They may not sign a 4th outfielder, but I think the others are locks. 

Wacha, andrus, Britton, Alex Reyes, gallo

[Revad]

3 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Wacha, andrus, Britton, Alex Reyes, gallo

Sounds good but I think they stay under the tax, so maybe 2 or three of those.

[Inside Pitch]

12 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think we have four more pieces coming, maybe five. SS, SP, RP, RP, C, 4th OFer.
They may not sign a 4th outfielder, but I think the others are locks. 

You are quite optimistic this winter.  I continue to expect nothing thus avoiding disappointment.

[beatlesrule]

4th OF is Adell and Mickey. If Adell opens in AAA, it's Mickey as the sole 4th OF. They should sign Brantley but he's a starting type and they already traded for Renfroe.

[Pancake Bear]

10 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

4th OF is Adell and Mickey. If Adell opens in AAA, it's Mickey as the sole 4th OF. They should sign Brantley but he's a starting type and they already traded for Renfroe.

Brantley really can't play the field anymore. 

[Stradling]

13 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

You are quite optimistic this winter.  I continue to expect nothing thus avoiding disappointment.

I am usually optimistic.  But I don’t think we go into the season with O’Hoppe being counted on.  I could see a scenario where Moniak is the 4th outfielder.  I think a Chaffin type move could happen.  I still think we acquire a SS. 

[Angels 1961]

24 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Wacha, andrus, Britton, Alex Reyes, gallo

Gallo wants to go somewhere he can play everyday

[Stradling]

I’d be fine with Mancini to continue depth building. He could play 1st or LF.  

[Inside Pitch]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I am usually optimistic.  But I don’t think we go into the season with O’Hoppe being counted on.  I could see a scenario where Moniak is the 4th outfielder.  I think a Chaffin type move could happen.  I still think we acquire a SS. 

I am too, usually there is a basis for it.  There is just so much noise due to the ownership situation.  That said, one thing I'm kinda optimistic about is the "potential" in house RPs, but they need to get as much "certainty" in as many areas as possible so I'd welcome someone like Chaffin.

[Warfarin]

13 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I am usually optimistic.  But I don’t think we go into the season with O’Hoppe being counted on.  I could see a scenario where Moniak is the 4th outfielder.  I think a Chaffin type move could happen.  I still think we acquire a SS. 

Yeah, I agree.  I think O'Hoppe is the future, but I think they'll ease into him taking over and, at the minimum, find a backup catcher to platoon with Stassi.  The rumored interest in Contreras, though, is an interesting tidbit.

[angelsnationtalk]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

I’d read that Eovaldi really hoped to go back to New York. Now that the Yanks have Rodon, that door might be closed. Given the Morosi report, Heyman’s Bassitt mention, and the glaring need and apparent money remaining, sure seems the Halos will be in a strong spot to sign him. Also get East Coast vibes from him though. Kluber too. 

Can’t help but think they’re being aggressive and the Gray/Maeda/Carrasco trade speculation is being in part triggered by the Angels hunting.

Personally, I would not be against Lugo either. Would just hope there were complimentary adds to the pen and bench if we went “cheap” for 6th SP.

100% think the same thing. I think the Angels will sign a free agent starter and bullpen guy and then flip a trade for a SS.