Angels Sale Prediction Thread

[Tank]

On 8/24/2022 at 12:27 AM, beatlesrule said:

he's more reliable than that hack latex guy, art vandelay.

[Tank]

Question: for whoever buys the angels, are the angels minor league teams included in the sale? 

@Inside Pitch @Docwaukee @Dave Saltzer

[ukyah]

7 hours ago, Lou said:

The Mets tv deal pales in comparison to ours. Also, Forbes has estimated their 2022 operating losses at $96M and ours at $2M. 

I think Arte gets more than the Mets sold for. 

wow, that's interesting. seems inverted to my "common sense", but that just illustrates even more so how the angels should be a sterling franchise opportunity for a new owner. i'm surprised then that ballmer, cuban and some of the other "names" said they were out so quickly and decisively.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

1 hour ago, ukyah said:

 i'm surprised then that ballmer, cuban and some of the other "names" said they were out so quickly and decisively.

Owning a professional sports team is more an ego thing than a money  maker, generally speaking. Any profit is not realized until the team is sold. 

[Turd Ferguson]

Lacob, AW fan contributions, and yacht fuel rebates enough?

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Owning a professional sports team is more an ego thing than a money  maker, generally speaking. Any profit is not realized until the team is sold. 

Except in the case of the angels.  According to leaked documents years ago, Arte was paying himself $20 million a season.  Not a bad racket, considering he bought the Angels for $180 million. 

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[AngelsFaninGA]

2 hours ago, Tank said:

Question: for whoever buys the angels, are the angels minor league teams included in the sale? 

@Inside Pitch @Docwaukee @Dave Saltzer

I sure hope so. Though I'm sure Arte would love to carve out our entire minor league system and sell it to the Dodgers if they offer an extra dollar. 

[BTH]

3 hours ago, Tank said:

Question: for whoever buys the angels, are the angels minor league teams included in the sale? 

@Inside Pitch @Docwaukee @Dave Saltzer

The Angels current minor league teams will still be affiliated with the Angels, regardless of the owner.

The Angels current minor league teams, with the exception of the ACL Angels and DSL Angels, are owned by different ownership groups in their respective cities. So the Angels don’t own them and won’t own them unless they buy them in a separate transaction.

[ukyah]

3 hours ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

Owning a professional sports team is more an ego thing than a money  maker, generally speaking. Any profit is not realized until the team is sold. 

i don't believe that for one second. the accounting practices of mlb, etc. are all bullshit wrapped in dogshit. they are making money hand over fist from one season to the next. 

[Docwaukee]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

Question: for whoever buys the angels, are the angels minor league teams included in the sale? 

@Inside Pitch @Docwaukee @Dave Saltzer

it is my understanding that the minor league clubs themselves ie ballparks and facilities are owned and operated independently while the players, coaches and staff have agreements with the parent club that would be included as part of any sale.  I also presume that any and all agreements between the main club and minor league facilities would transfer to new ownership.  

[Dave Saltzer]

4 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

it is my understanding that the minor league clubs themselves ie ballparks and facilities are owned and operated independently while the players, coaches and staff have agreements with the parent club that would be included as part of any sale.  I also presume that any and all agreements between the main club and minor league facilities would transfer to new ownership.  

Most minor league teams are independently owned and operated. The ACL Angels and DSL Angels are the only teams that I think the Angels own. The players are controlled by the team, so they won't be leaving

 

 

The agreements tying the Minor League teams to us are usually for 2 years, and rarely for 4 years. The affiliations would transfer to a new owner.  If a Minor League team wanted to switch, they would have to find a new ML organization that wants to affiliate with them, and then there will be a reshuffling of the deck. 

[3pitchwalk]

12 hours ago, ukyah said:

wow, that's interesting. seems inverted to my "common sense", but that just illustrates even more so how the angels should be a sterling franchise opportunity for a new owner. i'm surprised then that ballmer, cuban and some of the other "names" said they were out so quickly and decisively.

the only name that decisively said they were out is cuban which is a good thing.

[Angels 1961]

Potential owners are not going to show early interest. They will wait do their own homework on team. I have no idea who will pursue Angel's, but I think it will take longer than most think. Halos will be in total rebuild from ownership, front office plus on field players.

[ukyah]

11 hours ago, 3pitchwalk said:

the only name that decisively said they were out is cuban which is a good thing.

i believe ballmer did too in the same tweet that covered cuban as well.