O'Hoppe

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, failos said:

Yeah man, f his development. He can develop on this shitty ass team

Like Adell is doing?

[Inside Pitch]

1 hour ago, tdawg87 said:

As a catcher, which is a really difficult position to develop, he should get accustomed to working with all the pitchers we drafted who are currently in AA. Why bring him up now? The season is lost. 

Jason Varitek was drafted three times, twice in the first round, and he was a Golden Spikes winner.  He didn't get more than a one game cup of coffee until age 26.  He wasn't an everyday catcher until age 27.  Nobody ever questioned his work behind the plate or with pitchers at any level. 

Catching is hard.  Catching at the MLB level is harder.

[DMVol]

18 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Jason Varitek was drafted three times, twice in the first round, and he was a Golden Spikes winner.  He didn't get more than a one game cup of coffee until age 26.  He wasn't an everyday catcher until age 27.  Nobody ever questioned his work behind the plate or with pitchers at any level. 

Catching is hard.  Catching at the MLB level is harder.

One size probably doesn’t fill all but Benjie Molina was 24 when he was first called up and was a regular at 25…. probably a pretty good barometer….a few younger perhaps but that’s not a bad age for a catcher to start…. particularly if you have a veteran guy to share the load…

[Tank]

32 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Like Adell is doing?

[Tank]

28 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Jason Varitek was drafted three times, twice in the first round, and he was a Golden Spikes winner.  He didn't get more than a one game cup of coffee until age 26.  He wasn't an everyday catcher until age 27.  Nobody ever questioned his work behind the plate or with pitchers at any level. 

Catching is hard.  Catching at the MLB level is harder.

ah yes, traded for the great heathcliff slocumb.

[Inside Pitch]

3 minutes ago, DMVol said:

One size probably doesn’t fill all but Benjie Molina was 24 when he was first called up and was a regular at 25…. probably a pretty good barometer….a few younger perhaps but that’s not a bad age for a catcher to start…. particularly if you have a veteran guy to share the load…

Molina's first professional season came at age 18.  He was 6 years into his pro career.   He ascent to MLB from the minors actually took longer than Varitek. 

Catching is hard.

[Inside Pitch]

Just now, Tank said:

ah yes, traded for the great heathcliff slocumb.

You forget..   It was Varitek AND Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb.

[DMVol]

2 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Molina's first professional season came at age 18.  He was 6 years into his pro career.   He ascent to MLB from the minors actually took longer than Varitek. 

Catching is hard.

True….but most college guys should be closer to the bigs than an 18 year old…plus, Varitek didn’t sign after his Jr year, like most good college prospects…Boras couldn’t get him signed after his Jr year…that delayed his big league timeline a bit….but, no doubt, it’s probably the position that can take the longest to get ready…more so than pitching even…

[Inside Pitch]

1 minute ago, DMVol said:

True….but most college guys should be closer to the bigs than an 18 year old…plus, Varitek didn’t sign after his Jr year, like most good college prospects…Boras couldn’t get him signed after his Jr year…that delayed his big league timeline a bit….but, no doubt, it’s probably the position that can take the longest to get ready…more so than pitching even…

Take the longest, has the lowest success rate.   

Mostly, I dont want them to rush an actual talent if there is no need.  We have seen to much of it in recent years.

I had never seen the kid play before the trade -- what I've seen I've liked.  

[failos]

1 hour ago, Inside Pitch said:

Like Adell is doing?

Listen here…

ok good point. But I don’t think Adell is bad, and with his personality he’d be doing worse in the minors

[Angel Oracle]

29 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

You forget..   It was Varitek AND Derek Lowe for Heathcliff Slocumb.

Proof that Dumbpoto’s dad couldhave been M’s GM at the time.

[Angel Oracle]

25 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Take the longest, has the lowest success rate.   

Mostly, I dont want them to rush an actual talent if there is no need.  We have seen to much of it in recent years.

I had never seen the kid play before the trade -- what I've seen I've liked.  

I would say to bring him up after the AA post-season is over to get a taste of the bigs.   But with rosters only expanding by 2 now in September, it’s best to let him show his stuff in ST.

[ten ocho recon scout]

4 hours ago, Tank said:

ah yes, traded for the great heathcliff slocumb.

Varitek, a catcher, was traded for a cartoon cat.

Sosh, a catcher, was the butt of a ton of lasagna jokes on here, like Garfield, a cartoon cat.

We know what we need to do here. (The problem is there aren't any more cartoon cats, so we're screwed).

[greginpsca]

6 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Varitek, a catcher, was traded for a cartoon cat.

Sosh, a catcher, was the butt of a ton of lasagna jokes on here, like Garfield, a cartoon cat.

We know what we need to do here. (The problem is there aren't any more cartoon cats, so we're screwed).

O' Hoppe is an Irish name. There is always the beer or Irish whiskey jokes. Or even a limmerick or two.

[Blarg]

39 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

We know what we need to do here. (The problem is there aren't any more cartoon cats, so we're screwed).

Tom is really disappointed in you. 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Just now, Blarg said:

Tom is really disappointed in you. 

Good call!

So how do we make this work? Is there a good Tom out there we can trade him for? 

[Tank]

57 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

We know what we need to do here. (The problem is there aren't any more cartoon cats, so we're screwed).

felix would like a word with you

[Blarg]

23 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Good call!

So how do we make this work? Is there a good Tom out there we can trade him for? 

Ask the little rat Jerry.  

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

36 minutes ago, Tank said:

felix would like a word with you

So flip Ohoppe for Felix Hernandez? 

[Tank]

6 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

So flip Ohoppe for Felix Hernandez? 

I’m not saying no to that just yet…

[Docwaukee]

Leave him alone.  He's fine in AA.  

[eligrba]

16 hours ago, Blarg said:

Ask the little rat Jerry.  

 

Is this an advertisement for Zima, male enhancement, or both?

[ettin]

20 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Varitek, a catcher, was traded for a cartoon cat.

Sosh, a catcher, was the butt of a ton of lasagna jokes on here, like Garfield, a cartoon cat.

We know what we need to do here. (The problem is there aren't any more cartoon cats, so we're screwed).

Gee Re(co)n, whatever do you mean?

[Blarg]

2 hours ago, eligrba said:

Is this an advertisement for Zima, male enhancement, or both?

Sham Wow!

[arch stanton]

1 hour ago, ettin said:

Gee Re(co)n, whatever do you mean?

You covet my ice cream bar