THE ATHLETIC Exposes Another Angel Scouting Mistake

[JoJo26]

 First it was failing to land Vlad Jr.... Now it's Troy Percival's son:

"Two years ago, Cole Percival's future in baseball was up in the air. He had not been selected by a major-league team in the shortened 2020 MLB Draft. The team he had hoped would offer him a contract as an undrafted free agent never made an overture. Then the program he intended to return to at UC Riverside, where his dad, Troy, had become head baseball coach some five years after throwing his final pitch in the major leagues, seemed likely to be cut. He had to make a choice — transfer to a new school and hope he’d be able to re-enter the draft, or latch onto the best team that was willing to sign him for a mere $20,000.The DODGERS came calling. Percival was a lifelong ANGELS fan, but the team for which his dad closed out the 2002 World Series and a franchise-best 316 games never approached with an offer. He took the plunge, confident in the Dodgers’ prolific player development system. Percival now is reaping the benefits. He moved up to Double-A Tulsa last week.

The 23-year-old has a 3.59 ERA in 54 games since last season. He has struck out 22 percent of batters in his 133 career innings, most of which have come in a bulk relief role. There are areas of his game left to refine, but it’s clear he’s on a promising track."

[failos]

Ok

[Lou]

2022 ERA:

Single A = 3.77 

Double A = 6.75

[angelsnationtalk]

His son is a top 5 prospect? No? Then the Athletic can F off.

[Stradling]

His son has a 22% k rate in the minors. The major league average k rate is about 22%, higher for relievers. 

[DMVol]

Very different story than Vlad Jr.....

[Stradling]

We drafted Torrii Hunter Jr and he’s 27 or so and appears to be a career minor leaguer. 

[T.G.]

I’m outraged.

 

I think I’ll eat breakfast now.

[Angelsfan1984]

We better start scouting trouts son. Or they’ll get ripped for not drafting him in 2038

i can see the headline now. Angels not planning to draft trouts son since they already have rights to Brandon marshes unborn baby. 

[Lou]

I bet Marsh pulls like a champ.

[Stradling]

Just now, Lou said:

I bet Marsh pulls like a champ.

No doubt. Part of that has to do with “being fixed”

[Taylor]

7 minutes ago, T.G. said:

I’m outraged.

 

I think I’ll eat breakfast now.

Oatrage Flakes would be a good choice.

[Angelsfan1984]

13 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Oatrage Flakes would be a good choice.

I prefer anger-o’s. Better texture 

[UndertheHalo]

The comp with the Vlad Jr. situation is stupid but if they could have taken a swing at him for $20K.  I mean the Dodgers apparently thought it was worth it. 

[totdprods]

Did anyone else notice the Dodgers signed Jahmai Jones to a two-year minor league deal?

[T.G.]

21 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Did anyone else notice the Dodgers signed Jahmai Jones to a two-year minor league deal?

Yes

[notherhalo]

Didnt we draft Muhammed Ali's grandkid or something also?

[Blarg]

Bozo the Clown's grandson.

[Blarg]

13 hours ago, JoJo26 said:

Percival was a lifelong ANGELS fan, but the team for which his dad closed out the 2002 World Series and a franchise-best 316 games never approached with an offer.

This isn't a fraternity where every legacy gets in. 

[BTH]

10 hours ago, totdprods said:

Did anyone else notice the Dodgers signed Jahmai Jones to a two-year minor league deal?

Yeah.

Funny how everyone was so concerned about trading Jones for Cobb, yet Jones never worked out for Baltimore and Cobb was great for the Angels.

The real Angels-Orioles trade that we should've been upset about was trading Bradish to the O's in the Bundy trade. His stuff is nasty.

[Blarg]

I was never concerned about the trade. Jones stalled out and needed to see if it was a change if scenery to kick start a career. It didn't.  

[Duren, Duren]

This is really digging in the weeds to intentionally make an organization look bad. Very few sons are equal or better than their dads. Some, of course are, but the pressure and expectations make it harder. 

And castigate the same franchise over a fake sentimental angle? Really fishing for clicks. 

Moises Alou had a good career and arguably was about equal to his father Felipe.  Who also happened to share the outfield with his two brothers for a short time. And who, ironically, became his manager. Eduardo Perez was no Tony. I used to see the fat little kid run around Olympic Stadium  after games when his dad played for the Expos. Griffey Jr.  of course was an exception, but he didn't sign or play for his dad's team. No need to even pursue the subject any further. It was a simple scouting equation like thousands of others. 

 

[HanfordGuy]

Well to be fair, we did sign Gary Matthews, Jr…. What?!?! Too soon???

[ScottT]

Meh.  For $20k... I don't get it, though.  They did draft Roger Lodge's son.  And a couple others.   Feel like Cole was as cheap or cheaper with more potential 

[CaliAngel]

I loved Percival don't get me wrong, but he probably would not have been as successful against todays batters and would have to adopt a different approach as a pitcher than he did back in the 90's early 00's to get similar results.

On 8/10/2022 at 6:51 AM, DMVol said:

Very different story than Vlad Jr.....

Expected. 

On 8/10/2022 at 6:56 AM, Stradling said:

We drafted Torrii Hunter Jr and he’s 27 or so and appears to be a career minor leaguer. 

Expected.