Brandon Marsh, Mickey Moniak, and Jo Adell

[mmc]

Rank these 3 players in terms of who you think will be the best major leaguers

[DMVol]

Really tough luck for Moniak….things were perfectly set up for him to show what he could do…

[AngelfanIndiana]

Who knows none of them have shown up as advertised 

[AngelsLakersFan]

I was torn between Adell/Marsh/Moniak and Marsh/Adell/Moniak

Truth is Marsh had started to have me questioning his ability to make the adjustments required to become a quality hitter. He is obviously gold glove caliber in CF, which has value, but he has regressed from his rookie season, so I am not sure what to think about him.

Adell has looked terrible in his time up, and I don't think he will ever be a good defensive player, but he does seem to be getting better just a little bit every time out. Sure he had further to go than Marsh, but I think he's closing the gap, and he has always had a little bit more upside as a hitter. 

Moniak is a fourth outfield. I would be happy if he became Orlando Palmiero.

Now this doesn't mean any of these guys are going to be difference makers. Marsh is still the safe bet, but Im not sure it works out that way.

[Angelsfan1984]

Mark my words…baldoquin

 

 

 

 

 

will always suck ass

[Taylor]

[khouse]

1 hour ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Mark my words…baldoquin

 

 

 

 

 

will always suck ass

Didn't know if you knew this or not...

• Roberto Baldoquin: Released by Angels

  Rotowire  APR 2, 2020

  Baldoquin was recently cut loose by the Angels, Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic reports.

  The Angels signed Baldoquin out of Cuba late in 2014, but the shortstop never made much of an impact at any of his minor-league stops. He slashed .241/.295/.317 with nine home runs and 21 stolen bases in 355 career minor-league contests and never ascended beyond the Double-A level.

[AngelStew43]

Moniak should have most of the month of September to show his ability.  He did have a good spring with the Phillies, and he was off to a good start with us when he broke his finger.  Actually doubled his total of ML homers with us in three games.  

He is also still a young player, so the potential is there.  I just wish Perry could've gotten Philly to throw in their hitting coach in the deal. 

[Angelsjunky]

I have no idea about Moniak - haven't really watched him play or read scouting reports, or see what the general view is on "what went wrong." But it is pretty cool that, after five games, he has twice as many career HR with the Angels as he had with Philadelphia.

As for Marsh vs. Adell, I think the same is true as it has seemed for a year or more: Adell has higher upside, but Marsh a higher floor. But chances of Adell reaching that upside have lessened over the last two years.

That said, Adell seems to be improving, albeit slowly. But he has something like a 10% walk rate over his last 40 PA, and a K rate below 30%. So improvement!  It is a little weird how few HR he's hitting...11 HR of 86 major league hits, or 4 of 32 this year...that's 13% of his hits, or about 1 in 8. Over the course of his minor league career he's hit 71 HR of 396 hits (18%), or 36 of 127 over the last two seasons (28%).

 

[Angelsjunky]

But if we consider that Adell has hit .239/.289/.373 this year with a 5.3 BB% and 34.2 SO%, if he can improve those to around 10 and 30%, and also start hitting jacks at the rate he was in AAA, he's going to hit something like .250/.320/.470. I think that is quite do-able, and that's about what I'd predict for next year. If he can establish that as a baseline level, theoretically he could improve from there and have seasons hitting .270/.340/.550.

I still have hope.

Marsh's poor hitting is more surprising, really. Going into this season I thought the question was whether he's be more of a line-drive hitting on-base machine or a less BA and walks, but more HR. He's combined the worst of both worlds: low BA, few walks, not much power. If I were Philly, I'd tell him to work on making contact and getting on base and not worry about hitting home runs. The potential is still there to be something like a .270/.340/.420 guy which, if you couple it with excellent CF defense, makes him a borderline star. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Angelsjunky

[Angelsfan1984]

44 minutes ago, khouse said:

Didn't know if you knew this or not...

• Roberto Baldoquin: Released by Angels

  Rotowire  APR 2, 2020

  Baldoquin was recently cut loose by the Angels, Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic reports.

  The Angels signed Baldoquin out of Cuba late in 2014, but the shortstop never made much of an impact at any of his minor-league stops. He slashed .241/.295/.317 with nine home runs and 21 stolen bases in 355 career minor-league contests and never ascended beyond the Double-A level.

Oh I knew it. Just need to remind the board of his ass suckage

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, khouse said:

Didn't know if you knew this or not...

• Roberto Baldoquin: Released by Angels

  Rotowire  APR 2, 2020

  Baldoquin was recently cut loose by the Angels, Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic reports.

  The Angels signed Baldoquin out of Cuba late in 2014, but the shortstop never made much of an impact at any of his minor-league stops. He slashed .241/.295/.317 with nine home runs and 21 stolen bases in 355 career minor-league contests and never ascended beyond the Double-A level.

Just needs a bit more time to get adjusted to America and all. Understanding jail broke amazon sticks, fish tacos, and Uber eats. Once he's comfortable with those he's major league ready right now.

[Stax]

Seeing a Jackie Bradley Jr. in Marsh, good defense and maybe a few good hitting years.   

 

[Taylor]

13 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Just needs a bit more time to get adjusted to America and all. Understanding jail broke amazon sticks, fish tacos, and Uber eats. Once he's comfortable with those he's major league ready right now.

Uber Eats, the staple of the millennial lifestyle according to @Blarg and @Lou.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Uber Eats, the staple of the millennial lifestyle according to @Blarg and @Lou.

I don't get it.

[Second Base]

The hilarious part is that just as many fans believe Moniak will be just as good as Adell. 

I don't know whether that means we should get our hopes up for one, or be disappointed because of the other. 

But it appears fans believe we traded our best outfield prospect for a someday catcher. 

Edited August 8, 2022 by Second Base

[Vlad27Trout27]

Really can't rank them, but a few things I will say;

Adell at-bats looks much better! he working counts, he might mostly be a high strike out/ low Walks guy. He has the rest of the season to produce and show he can handle Lf. 

Moniak, had a nice little start, but he he needs to show this throughout a longer season. 

If we were to rank them based on their Prime Prosepct ranking, It'd Be Adell, moniak and Marsh. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, Lou said:

I don't get it.

He's just trying to transfer guilt for not saving for his daughter's college fund. 

[stormngt]

20 hours ago, khouse said:

Didn't know if you knew this or not...

• Roberto Baldoquin: Released by Angels

  Rotowire  APR 2, 2020

  Baldoquin was recently cut loose by the Angels, Fabian Ardaya of The Athletic reports.

  The Angels signed Baldoquin out of Cuba late in 2014, but the shortstop never made much of an impact at any of his minor-league stops. He slashed .241/.295/.317 with nine home runs and 21 stolen bases in 355 career minor-league contests and never ascended beyond the Double-A level.

Thanks dipshito.  And because of him we couldn't attempt to sign Vad Jr the following year 

[ScottT]

Dallas McPherson, Howie Kendrick, Casey Kotchman, Jeff Mathis

[Stradling]

To me it’s weird that Philly fixed Marsh but then coached him into striking out twice tonight.  

[Lou]

16 minutes ago, Stradling said:

To me it’s weird that Philly fixed Marsh but then coached him into striking out twice tonight.  

3 times 

[m0nkey]

Once in one at bat tonight.

 

Though he is going up against Scherzer and deGrom in back to back games

[Lou]

1 minute ago, m0nkey said:

Once in one at bat tonight.

 

Though he is going up against Scherzer and Diaz in back to back games

[Lou]

49 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Once in one at bat tonight.

 

Though he is going up against Scherzer and deGrom in back to back games

2 in 2 at bats tonight