Trout will not be ready to return when eligible to come off the IL

[fan_since79]

Yawn...

Wake me when they have a date for the surgery. 

 

[Angels 1961]

40 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Basically the body becomes so dependent on what they provide that the body stops healing muscles naturally. 

That happened to the inside of my head when I joined AW

[Angelsfan1984]

4 minutes ago, Angels 1961 said:

That happened to the inside of my head when I joined AW

You should probably take a break then. 3-4 years should do the trick. 

[Slegnaac]

1 hour ago, 79CAAman said:

Back spasms to rib inflammation to likely complete tear of some mystery muscle?Dude’s heart/head does not seem to be in the game anymore. Maybe his heart is on being a full time dad, absolutely nothing wrong with that. Wouldn’t surprise me if he retired prematurely. 
There is just too much smoke with last year’s “calf sprain”, all the strikeouts this year, and now this bullshit ‘injury’. Since when are pro athletes at optimal health this far into a season, in any sport?

Based on what we saw with Albert, the chances that Mike retires early have to be next to zero.

[fan_since79]

3-4 years should be enough time for the rebuild to be well underway. Another two or three years after that and the 3rd wildcard should be in play.

[Angelsfan1984]

2 minutes ago, fan_since79 said:

3-4 years should be enough time for the rebuild to be well underway. Another two or three years after that and the 3rd wildcard should be in play.

Will be 5 wildcards by then.

[PattyD22]

“We just have to take it day by day……”

 

Well there you go.  That explains it.

[Slegnaac]

Three things I pray,

Players that can hit

Players that catch the ball in their mitt

A Bullpen that isn't dog do-do

 

Edited July 23, 2022 by Slegnaac

[Sho Way That Was A Strike]

Honestly I don’t think it’s steroids or his heart isn’t in it, etc. We are just so used to seeing him as this dominant guy that can do anything and he’s morphing into an ordinary star player instead of a superstar. 

[eligrba]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

:::warning::::not saying this is the case. 
 

But…his injuries and long recovery times are on par with someone who’s body is breaking down from roids. Muscles and ligaments become brittle over time and recovery takes longer and longer. He’s not barely 30 and he’s recovering like a 50-60 year old.

Muscles and ligaments become brittle over time? 
 

Link?

[thebloob]

1 hour ago, fan_since79 said:

Yawn...

Wake me when they have a date for the surgery. 

 

I’d almost rather it be a surgery injury.  Then there is a timeframe for healing.  Back injuries can be the worst because they can nag and recur and not always be “fixed”. 

[eligrba]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Basically the body becomes so dependent on what they provide that the body stops healing muscles naturally. 

Exactly how do muscles naturally heal?

[thebloob]

6 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Exactly how do muscles naturally heal?

Do you really want to get into the physiology of the bodies natural mechanisms of healing. If you want to get into steroids the issue is that they are potent anti inflammatory medications.  The healing process involves inflammation to bring the proper cells to heal.  Steroids inhibits that.  

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Basically the body becomes so dependent on what they provide that the body stops healing muscles naturally. 

You must have not followed baseball during the steroid era.

[eligrba]

Just now, thebloob said:

Do you really want to get into the physiology of the bodies natural mechanisms of healing. If you want to get into steroids the issue is that they are potent anti inflammatory medications.  The healing process involves inflammation to bring the proper cells to heal.  Steroids inhibits that.  

Yes. Please explain to me specifically about how muscles naturally heal.

[Docwaukee]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

:::warning::::not saying this is the case. 
 

But…his injuries and long recovery times are on par with someone who’s body is breaking down from roids. Muscles and ligaments become brittle over time and recovery takes longer and longer. He’s not barely 30 and he’s recovering like a 50-60 year old.

it's actually the opposite.  guys were playing into their mid to late 30's and putting up peak seasons during those years when the roid era going in full swing.  

 

[Docwaukee]

5 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

You must have not followed baseball during the steroid era.

beat me to it.  

[79CAAman]

What I have a problem with is that it’s a ‘phantom’ injury. When did it happen?  I get the thump a few years back, sliding into second base.  You can’t suck it up when you’re making that kind of money? 

[eligrba]

@thebloob I’m ready with a notepad to learn about the physiology of natural muscle healing. Please don’t let me down.

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

It is sad that Trout's contract is looking questionable this early into it.

Year 1 (2019): Great

Year 2 (2020): Sub-par, but covid. Right?

Year 3 (2021): Played 36 games.

Year 4 (2022): Erratic performance, possibly indicative of decline. Worst two slumps of his career. Has played in 85% of games, which by the time he comes back could be ~80% or less.

I can't wait to see what Years 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 have in store for us.

Antrout Mikedon

[Taylor]

Trout injured again

Day to day, more like IL

See you in 'tember

[Angelsjunky]

8 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Antrout Mikedon

Or really, Ken Griffey III. I hate to say it, but he's looking more and more like Griffey. 

Meaning, Griffey started slipping around the same age, and was injured a lot. His bat was up and down in his 30s, but his defensive value plummeted. His last really good season was 2000 at age 30.

 

Edited July 24, 2022 by Angelsjunky

[Duren, Duren]

NFL training camps are here soon. Trout has extra time now to get his fantasy league in order. That's a league where he's safe from injuries. Possibly. 

[Angelsfan1984]

1 hour ago, eligrba said:

Exactly how do muscles naturally heal?

Is this a real question?

[Angelsfan1984]

48 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

it's actually the opposite.  guys were playing into their mid to late 30's and putting up peak seasons during those years when the roid era going in full swing.  

 

Not when you stop a cycle. If you stay on the recovery continues. Once you cycle off the breakdown begins.