How to Negotiate a Raise?

[Blarg]

22 hours ago, Lou said:

You forgot about the Angels season tickets.

Already included in his current perks.

[failos]

On 2/11/2022 at 1:27 PM, Taylor said:

First of all, congrats on the promotion offer!

Second, have you accepted it yet? If not, I'd ask to meet one-on-one with your manager and express how excited you are for the new role and share some ideas of how you're going to jump in to your new responsibilities at full speed. Be specific and show you've been thinking intentionally and creatively.

Then, say that you've done your research on salaries for senior software engineers, and while you're excited to elevate your presence at the company, you're reluctant to take on this new role without a bump of at least $15K.

Unless your manager is an asshole and your company is shitty to employees, at the very least I'd expect your manager to say something like, "I don't know if we can do 15, but let me see if we can get some additional compensation than what has been offered." Negotiations are common with promotions; in fact, your manager might be expecting you to negotiate a little. 

As long as you present yourself as genuinely excited for the position and intentionally thinking about how you'll use it to benefit the company, I don't see your ask being met with a negative response. At the very worst, your manager will tell you the budget only allows for an $8K bump but hopefully there will be room for more growth in the future.

If that's the case, accept the promotion, update your resume with the new title, and shop yourself around to other companies using your new position as a way to demonstrate your increased value.

Thanks Taylor. I kinda have no choice but to accept the promotion, otherwise I’d be signaling that I’m leaving. I’ve come to terms with the raise I received. I’m just going to grind it out for another year and jump to a different company for $50k more. I’m not really beholden to the company I work for, so it’s not a problem. Though I will definitely talk to my manager in our next 1:1 as I have nothing to lose really.

[failos]

On 2/12/2022 at 12:32 PM, Blarg said:

Already included in his current perks.

Ha. I wouldn’t be caught dead sitting in a pleb section like that.

[Tank]

if you can get $50k with another company, why wait a year to make the move?

[Lou]

6 hours ago, Tank said:

if you can get $50k with another company, why wait a year to make the move?

Exactly.

1.  Accept the raise.

2.  Secure an offer elsewhere.

3.  Negotiate a larger raise with your current employer.

4.  Profit.

 

[failos]

7 hours ago, Tank said:

if you can get $50k with another company, why wait a year to make the move?

I’ve only been working at my current job for around a year and a half and don’t want to be jumping around too much. I’ll bounce once I hit the 2 year mark 

[failos]

59 minutes ago, Lou said:

Exactly.

1.  Accept the raise.

2.  Secure an offer elsewhere.

3.  Negotiate a larger raise with your current employer.

4.  Profit.

 

Yes that’s the plan. I already created a leetcode account so I can practice the stupid questions Meta/Amazon/Apple/other big prestigious companies ask during technical interviews.

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, failos said:

Yes that’s the plan. I already created a leetcode account so I can practice the stupid questions Meta/Amazon/Apple/other big prestigious companies ask during technical interviews.

Make sure to ask them plenty of questions, too.  It shows that you're prepared and that you're serious about your interest in their organization.

[failos]

Just now, Lou said:

Make sure to ask them plenty of questions, too.  It shows that you're prepared and that you're serious about your interest in their organization.

Yep absolutely. I’m getting quite used to interviews since I conduct about 4 per week.

[Lou]

Just now, failos said:

Yep absolutely. I’m getting quite used to interviews since I conduct about 4 per week.

Any interest in running a major league clubhouse?

[failos]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Any interest in running a major league clubhouse?

And risk having a bunch of Wisconsin twerps talking shit about me on a message board? 

Sign me up.

[Lou]

10 minutes ago, failos said:

And risk having a bunch of Wisconsin twerps talking shit about me on a message board? 

Sign me up.

Twerp.

Singular.

[failos]

2 minutes ago, Lou said:

Twerp.

Singular.

You never know. There could be another Wisconsinite twerp calling for Carpy’s head, but point taken.

[Tank]

Singular 

just like a regular cheeseburger at INO, a place I can visit any time.

[failos]

1 minute ago, Tank said:

Singular 

just like a regular cheeseburger at INO, a place I can visit any time.

Sick burn

[Slegnaac]

2 hours ago, failos said:

Yes that’s the plan. I already created a leetcode account so I can practice the stupid questions Meta/Amazon/Apple/other big prestigious companies ask during technical interviews.

How about Sony or Disney?

[failos]

Just now, Slegnaac said:

How about Sony or Disney?

Yeah that would be awesome, assuming they don’t have a shitty org structure like many massive corporations do. I also prefer to work from home.
 

My current job is 100% remote.

[Taylor]

13 hours ago, failos said:

Yeah that would be awesome, assuming they don’t have a shitty org structure like many massive corporations do. I also prefer to work from home.
 

My current job is 100% remote.

Disney is notoriously cheap with their employees. I knew someone who worked for Disney corporate and didn't see a raise in 10 years, even though their position evolved.

[Blarg]

The Peter Pan ride has not changed that much. 

[failos]

27 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Disney is notoriously cheap with their employees. I knew someone who worked for Disney corporate and didn't see a raise in 10 years, even though their position evolved.

Yeah…screw companies like that. Though I wonder if it’s different for software engineers since engineers are in high demand right now.

[Taylor]

1 hour ago, Blarg said:

The Peter Pan ride has not changed that much. 

I said Disney corporate, not attractions. She was in their communications department.

[Slegnaac]

18 hours ago, failos said:

Yeah that would be awesome, assuming they don’t have a shitty org structure like many massive corporations do. I also prefer to work from home.
 

My current job is 100% remote.

Have you sent your resume to @Chuckster70

[failos]

1 hour ago, Slegnaac said:

Have you sent your resume to @Chuckster70

Yes, I’m building the AW app for iOS and Android.

[failos]

5 hours ago, Taylor said:

I said Disney corporate, not attractions. She was in their communications department.

Ah, well that’s why she never got a raise.