Arte doesn't value pitchers as much as hitters

[eligrba]

2 hours ago, Blarg said:

I'm sure some team fans are wondering why they couldn't get a quality 3rd baseman like Rendon.

I remember.....it was a long dry run after Glaus......then another one after Figgins.

I remember another wondering about the vacuum in left field until the Upton deal.

I remember another wondering about problems of 2B until Fletch.

It requires a concerted effort to be bad at scouting, drafting and developing to get to a point where there are that many holes on a team, year after year.  I can understand blaming Arte for being cheap on scouting, the executive talent required for making better predictions/projections and the coaches necessary for quality player development.

[Taylor]

43 minutes ago, eligrba said:

a long dry run after Glaus......then another one after Figgins.

Gross.

[Torridd]

1 hour ago, Jason said:

This idea that Arte or the organization doesn't value any given position is rather silly. Not placing value and doing a shitty job at developing and signing talent are not the same thing. 

I didn't say he doesn't value pitching, but that he doesn't as much as hitting.

[Jason]

Just now, Torridd said:

I didn't say he doesn't value pitching, but that he doesn't as much as hitting.

I think it's as simple as the organization just sucks at scouting and developing pitching. Hopefully Perry can turn that ship around here in the next few years. 

[Taylor]

*Kanye West grabs the mic*

Arte Moreno doesn't care about pitchers.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

*Kanye West grabs the mic*

Arte Moreno doesn't care about pitchers.

"Imma let Minasian talk. 

But Bavasi was the greatest GM ya'll ever had"

[DCAngelsFan]

5 hours ago, Jason said:

The bottom line is the organization has to do a better job at scouting, drafting and developing top tier pitching. If they don't then they'll always be mediocre in this area. 

This.

There are far too few TOR-type pitchers hitting free-agency in their prime - and as expensive as they are, most teams can't afford to sign 2 or 3 of them.  And most are getting to FA at an age where the end is nearing ...

Here's how the Dodgers built their rotation:

Kershaw:  Drafted by Dodgers (1st round/7th pick)
Bauer:  Signed as Free agent (drafted by Diamondbacks 1/3)
Buehler:  Drafted by Dodgers (1/24)
Urias:  Signed by Dodgers as international FA in 2012
May:  Drafted by Dodgers (3rd round)

This is how you do it
 

 

[Jason]

8 minutes ago, DCAngelsFan said:

This.

There are far too few TOR-type pitchers hitting free-agency in their prime - and as expensive as they are, most teams can't afford to sign 2 or 3 of them.  And most are getting to FA at an age where the end is nearing ...

Here's how the Dodgers built their rotation:

Kershaw:  Drafted by Dodgers (1st round/7th pick)
Bauer:  Signed as Free agent (drafted by Diamondbacks 1/3)
Buehler:  Drafted by Dodgers (1/24)
Urias:  Signed by Dodgers as international FA in 2012
May:  Drafted by Dodgers (3rd round)

This is how you do it
 

 

Yep. Maybe the Halos need some undercover guys to infiltrate the Dodgers organization and take some notes. They do this stuff very well and we don't. 

[Taylor]

36 minutes ago, Jason said:

Yep. Maybe the Halos need some undercover guys to infiltrate the Dodgers organization and take some notes. They do this stuff very well and we don't. 

Or Arte can stop being cheap and hire more than 8 scouts.

[Jason]

Just now, Taylor said:

Or Arte can stop being cheap and hire more than 8 scouts.

I don't know what the Halos' scouting department looks like but if they are really under staffed then that is Arte being a problem with development of pitching 

[Taylor]

9 minutes ago, Jason said:

I don't know what the Halos' scouting department looks like but if they are really under staffed then that is Arte being a problem with development of pitching 

Remember this juicy thread?

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Or Arte can stop being cheap and hire more than 8 scouts.

Ive said it before. 

Screw all you guys.

One Scout is all you need.

[ten ocho recon scout]

2 hours ago, DCAngelsFan said:

This is how you do it

 

 

Did anyone else read that and instantly start singing "this is how we doooooooo iiiiit!" 

 

And then felt stupid, because DC said "you", not "we"?

[DCAngelsFan]

3 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Did anyone else read that and instantly start singing "this is how we doooooooo iiiiit!" 

 

And then felt stupid, because DC said "you", not "we"?

I thought it was just me ... 

 

[Lou]

6 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Did anyone else read that and instantly start singing "this is how we doooooooo iiiiit!" 

 

And then felt stupid, because DC said "you", not "we"?

Yes and no 

I'll never feel stupid singing MJ and neither should you.

So tip up your cup and throw your hands up

 

[DCAngelsFan]

9 minutes ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Ive said it before. 

Screw all you guys.

One Scout is all you need.

Um, not that kind of scout ...

 

[eligrba]

3 hours ago, DCAngelsFan said:

This.

There are far too few TOR-type pitchers hitting free-agency in their prime - and as expensive as they are, most teams can't afford to sign 2 or 3 of them.  And most are getting to FA at an age where the end is nearing ...

Here's how the Dodgers built their rotation:

Kershaw:  Drafted by Dodgers (1st round/7th pick)
Bauer:  Signed as Free agent (drafted by Diamondbacks 1/3)
Buehler:  Drafted by Dodgers (1/24)
Urias:  Signed by Dodgers as international FA in 2012
May:  Drafted by Dodgers (3rd round)

This is how you do it
 

 

Having over 100 million dollars allocated to 5 starting pitchers also makes a difference.

[failos]

George Bush doesn’t care about black people

[Lou]

3 minutes ago, Φαήλος said:

George Bush doesn’t care about black people

Are you lost?

[failos]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

Are you lost?

You’re dead to me until you tell me how to watch Line of Duty S6. And no, I’m not lost, the thread title reminded me of Kanye’s famous outburst about GWB.

[Lou]

4 minutes ago, Φαήλος said:

You’re dead to me until you tell me how to watch Line of Duty S6. And no, I’m not lost, the thread title reminded me of Kanye’s famous outburst about GWB.

I'm ok with being dead.

Spoiler

Plus, Redondo already told you

 

[failos]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

I'm ok with being dead.

Even to me?

[sammyscioscia]

But does he value bitchers over pitchers?

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Φαήλος said:

Even to me?

[failos]

Just now, Lou said:

Just tell me where to watch it, mang. I don’t want to Google it and get spoiled.