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Gameday Thread: Angels vs. Astros (4-23-2021)


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1 minute ago, Angelsjunky said:

Every player declines differently. Some do so quickly, some very slowly. It doesn't seem to correlate with how good the player is.

There were signs of his decline, though, before he became an Angel. His wRC+ went from 180 to 164 to 147 in his three final years as a Cardinal, with a clear downward trend for two years in a row.  I think Arte just overlooked that and hoped the "off year" narrative was true, and he'd at least have four or five years of 150+ (not that Arte knows or cares about wRC+, but you now what I mean).

When Albert got even worse in 2012 with a 133 wRC+, almost everyone thought it was just another down year, and that he was getting his sea leagues in the AL and on the Angels, and that he would bounce back. But it wasn't to be, obviously.

And of course there's age - I think it very possible that he's 2-3 older than advertised, which makes his decline starting 2010 at age 32 or 33, which is a very common age to start declining.

Why couldn't Pujols age like other Dominican sluggers like Cruz or Ortiz? Twas not to be...

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13 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

Every player declines differently. Some do so quickly, some very slowly. It doesn't seem to correlate with how good the player is.

There were signs of his decline, though, before he became an Angel. His wRC+ went from 180 to 164 to 147 in his three final years as a Cardinal, with a clear downward trend for two years in a row.  I think Arte just overlooked that and hoped the "off year" narrative was true, and he'd at least have four or five years of 150+ (not that Arte knows or cares about wRC+, but you now what I mean).

When Albert got even worse in 2012 with a 133 wRC+, almost everyone thought it was just another down year, and that he was getting his sea leagues in the AL and on the Angels, and that he would bounce back. But it wasn't to be, obviously.

And of course there's age - I think it very possible that he's 2-3 older than advertised, which makes his decline starting 2010 at age 32 or 33, which is a very common age to start declining.

Oh there's no doubt he is 2-3 years older. Makes his decline easier to understand. Again though, I still don't understand how he all of a sudden loses what a ball and strike is. Oh well. We just have to hope this team can win despite him. I was at the game Tuesday night where he hit a bomb but those will be rarer and rarer. I am just hoping Maddon continues to hit him lower and lower in the lineup. Last year.......last year........

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