Ohtani

[tdawg87]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Of course he should pitch in NL parks if it’s his turn in the rotation.  But him pitching and batting in the same games in AL parks during the season would be a mistake. Who knows, maybe he won’t run his pitch count as high as he had in 2018 and he will show the ability to consistently pitch deep into games. But until then I wouldn’t do it.  

I'm trying to understand why he can't do it. 

I mean, he isn't going to. I don't think Maddon will do it (although I'm certain he'll consider it).

NL pitchers do it all year. It's dumb, but with Ohtani it's actually fucking awesome.

Just imagine him pitching 7 shutout innings with 10 K's and also a 460 foot big boi bomb to the rock pile. That's visual viagra. Which is my band name.

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I'm trying to understand why he can't do it. 

I mean, he isn't going to. I don't think Maddon will do it (although I'm certain he'll consider it).

NL pitchers do it all year. It's dumb, but with Ohtani it's actually fucking awesome.

Just imagine him pitching 7 shutout innings with 10 K's and also a 460 foot big boi bomb to the rock pile. That's visual viagra. Which is my band name.

It’s because he’s prone to have high pitch counts due to him being a strike out pitcher and he walks a fair amount.  So if he goes 4-5 innings, you either have a pitcher hit or run through the bench in pinch hitters. The good news is in games he pitches if he’s hitting you have one extra guy on the bench. 

[sammyscioscia]

Also wouldn't that make him the first player in history to pitch and hit a home run in the same game in any AL park?  Is that cool or what?

That's not some overly complicated stat, it's quite remarkable.

Also, I'm not sure if any pitcher has hit and pitched in an AL park on the same game (since DH was available).

 

[arch stanton]

The DH didn’t come around until 1973. Since then I don’t remember it happening but it may have 

[Angel Oracle]

On 3/20/2021 at 7:01 AM, sammyscioscia said:

Also wouldn't that make him the first player in history to pitch and hit a home run in the same game in any AL park?  Is that cool or what?

That's not some overly complicated stat, it's quite remarkable.

Also, I'm not sure if any pitcher has hit and pitched in an AL park on the same game (since DH was available).

 

Irony is that in the last non-DH AL season (1972), a Halos reliever (Don Rose) in his MLB debut at bat hit a HR.

Edited March 21, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[sammyscioscia]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Irony is that in the non-DH AL season (1972), a Halos reliever (Don Rose) in his MLB debut at bat hit a HR.

Yeah I looked a little deeper.  Funny thing is that was the only HR he ever hit and the only win he ever got pitching.

[tdawg87]

2 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Irony is that in the non-DH AL season (1972), a Halos reliever (Don Rose) in his MLB debut at bat hit a HR.

I love you, AO.

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, sammyscioscia said:

Yeah I looked a little deeper.  Funny thing is that was the only HR he ever hit and the only win he ever got pitching.

And was part of the Ryan/Fregosi trade.

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 3/20/2021 at 7:06 AM, arch stanton said:

The DH didn’t come around until 1973. Since then I don’t remember it happening but it may have 

 

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

Irony is that in the last non-DH AL season (1972), a Halos reliever (Don Rose) in his MLB debut at bat hit a HR.

Lol...

 

After reading Arch's post, I was gonna say we need AO to clarify this.

And AO didnt disappoint.

[Chuck]

 

[oldguy]

23 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

And was part of the Ryan/Fregosi trade.

And was the guy we traded to get Ed Figueroa a year later.

[Angel Oracle]

33 minutes ago, oldguy said:

And was the guy we traded to get Ed Figueroa a year later.

By far, got the better part of that deal.

Edited March 22, 2021 by Angel Oracle

[AngelsLakersFan]

On 3/20/2021 at 6:27 AM, tdawg87 said:

That's visual viagra. Which is my band name.

Not 'Auditory Viagra?'

[Warfarin]

ESPN is ranking the top 100 players.  Ohtani is listed, and on their little snippet regarding Ohtani, they wrote:

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They tracked his progress through an aggressive, data-driven offseason in which he immersed himself in more game-like situations and have watched all of his undeniable talent come through on the mound and in the batter's box this spring. 

"Aggressive, data-driven offseason."  I wonder how many of our players had an offseason like this, and how much of this is a result of Maddon and Minasian.  Would be very interesting to learn about the information our players are utilizing to help improve their game.

[Billy_Ball]

Shotime!

 

[Taylor]

17 minutes ago, Billy_Ball said:

Shotime!

 

[sammyscioscia]

THE most exciting player in baseball is Ohtani and it's not even close, try to think of another player... hard isn't it?

[ten ocho recon scout]

Bo-tani...

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, sammyscioscia said:

THE most exciting player in baseball is Ohtani and it's not even close, try to think of another player... hard isn't it?

Combine him with Trout and you have this guy:

[Chuck]

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

9 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

Forget ohtani.... can the guy who caught the foul work with adell a little bit?

[JAHV76]

1 minute ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Forget ohtani.... can the guy who caught the foul work with adell a little bit?

+ Fowler

[Dtwncbad]

On 3/17/2021 at 9:49 AM, Angel Oracle said:

I’m predicting between 4-5 innings/start for the first couple of months, and then 5-6 innings/start the rest of the season.

That times 27 starts = around 130-140 innings.

You are perfectly on pace here.

The idea that a healthy Ohtani would not log 100 innings was just absurd.

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

You are perfectly on pace here.

The idea that a healthy Ohtani would not log 100 innings was just absurd.

He's at 59 innings right now, so maybe it's a bit early for the 'I told ya so.'

100 innings was a good target for him this season.

[Dtwncbad]

15 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

He's at 59 innings right now, so maybe it's a bit early for the 'I told ya so.'

100 innings was a good target for him this season.

It’s not too early.  The projection was for a healthy Ohtani to not surpass 100 innings.

Do you really think at this point there is any way a healthy Ohtani does not surpass 100 innings this season if he has logged 59 right now?

The only way he doesn’t get there is if he doesn’t stay healthy.

Not too early at all.