Will Angel fans get a starting pitcher on or before Christmas?

[Angels 1961]

Have we've been good this year so that Santa will reward us Angels fans with a bonafide ace either signed or traded for before Christmas?

[tdawg87]

[Junkballer]

[eligrba]

More likely at the end of Festivus.  The airing of grievances and feats of strength must not be interrupted.

[Jay]

Shooting for St. Patrick's Day.

[Fish Oil]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

Shooting for St. Patrick's Day.

I understand a lot of Irish get obnoxious when they drink, but I think shooting them is probably over reacting a little, no?

[mmc]

On this day last year we got our second starter in Teheran (lol) after acquiring Bundy two weeks prior.  We’re already behind last year in terms of rotation help, so hopefully it happens soon, even if it’s not before Christmas 

[AngelsLakersFan]

1 hour ago, Jay said:

Shooting for St. Patrick's Day.

I thought explosions were more typical for that one?

[Stradling]

4 minutes ago, mmc said:

On this day last year we got our second starter in Teheran (lol) after acquiring Bundy two weeks prior.  We’re already behind last year in terms of rotation help, so hopefully it happens soon, even if it’s not before Christmas 

Yea, once again, comparing this off season to any off season is just not a good idea in terms of timeline.  When it is December 19th and the two biggest names to be signed to contracts are James McCann and who, Adam Eaton (it feels as though I am missing someone)?  It tells you everything you know about the pace of the off season.  The best player to change teams was Raisel Iglesias.  

[Lazorko Saves]

No chance.  Before Hogmanay is the absolute earliest we could expect.  But I think before Shrove Tuesday is a more reasonable target.

Edited December 19, 2020 by Lazorko Saves

[mmc]

15 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Yea, once again, comparing this off season to any off season is just not a good idea in terms of timeline.  When it is December 19th and the two biggest names to be signed to contracts are James McCann and who, Adam Eaton (it feels as though I am missing someone)?  It tells you everything you know about the pace of the off season.  The best player to change teams was Raisel Iglesias.  

Morton

[Inside Pitch]

5 minutes ago, mmc said:

Morton

Does he really count?   Dude was basically on record as wanting to stay near home or retire, seems like he basically called his shot before FA even started.

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Inside Pitch said:

Does he really count?   Dude was basically on record as wanting to stay near home or retire, seems like he basically called his shot before FA even started.

Yea, I would include Morton.  I knew there was someone good that I was leaving out.  I think Morton is legit and would have been the perfect 2nd pitcher to acquire.

[Chuck]

Well the good news is there's still a TON of free agent starting pitchers that are available. I'm guessing we'll sign or make a trade before Christmas.

[Duren, Duren]

Not likely this close to Xmas. Especially now with normal routines all out of sync. Probably more moves in January. But spring training will be when the GMs will really be busy.

Right field also could be a position more in play for a player acquisition after hearing Maddon say that Adell needs a season in the minors. 

[CanadianHalo]

2 hours ago, Jay said:

Shooting for St. Patrick's Day.

2022

[Second Base]

From a very human standpoint, I'm sure many of the free agent starters would love to know where they're playing by Christmas. But two of the last three off-seasons have been pretty out of the ordinary. 

With so much uncertainty regarding the resumption of play, season length, the vaccine, the upcoming labor negotiations, possible universal DH, possible work stoppage, everything is up in the air right now. 

Players don't want to screw the next guy in line by taking a below market contact, and owners don't want to fork over any cash if there won't be as many, if any games. 

So we're suck in this holding pattern and the slow off-season is only likely to continue until people can get their collective crap together. My guess is we are going to see a lot of late January, early February signings and trades, making for an incredibly stupid off-season. 

A slough of smaller or medium moves made in November, then basically nothing for two months, followed by a flurry of moves a couple weeks ahead of Spring Training.

[Pancake Bear]

Sugano is on a set timeline. The question is, Will anything happen before him? Or will his signing get anything else moving? I haven't heard much in the way of news as far as anything happening at all. Everything seems really quiet. 

[BTH]

The Angels figure to add starting pitching, but the odds that the Angels acquire a starting pitcher in the next week are significantly lower than the odds that they acquire a starter from December 26 to February or March.

So I'll say no, the Angels don't get a starting pitcher before Christmas.

[Redondo]

10 minutes ago, Trendon said:

So I'll say no, the Angels don't get a starting pitcher before Christmas.

 

[Docwaukee]

keep in mind that CA is pretty much on lock down right now.  

I would guess that there are quite a few free agents who might not want to travel to Socal right now yet they aren't going to just sign with someone else when the Angels might be willing to give them a more competitive offer.  So they wait.  And we wait.  

[Second Base]

5 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

keep in mind that CA is pretty much on lock down right now.  

I would guess that there are quite a few free agents who might not want to travel to Socal right now yet they aren't going to just sign with someone else when the Angels might be willing to give them a more competitive offer.  So they wait.  And we wait.  

I don't think a free agent necessarily has to come to CA to negotiate. Minasian can leave CA to visit them or it can be done over the phone or over Zoom. Shoot, they can just present an offer to their agent and the agent can text the player the specifics. 

[eligrba]

3 hours ago, mmc said:

Morton

Love their salt.

[Docwaukee]

9 minutes ago, Second Base said:

I don't think a free agent necessarily has to come to CA to negotiate. Minasian can leave CA to visit them or it can be done over the phone or over Zoom. Shoot, they can just present an offer to their agent and the agent can text the player the specifics. 

of course.  but that's not the normal way that it works.  Especially for the higher end guys who are looking at multi-year deals.  My point is that the logistics are more complicated than usual which likely adds time to the process.  

[failos]

3 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Well the good news is there's still a TON of free agent starting pitchers that are available. I'm guessing we'll sign or make a trade before Christmas.

Lol Trevor Cahill