Darvish may be available

[Dtwncbad]

21 minutes ago, Second Base said:

Very positive. Darvish really liked him.

So it started well.  Let’s see if it has a happy ending.

[T.G.]

Udon, Maddon... it’s all good.

[Lazorko Saves]

I'd be on board for us getting Darvish at a fair price, but I'm not sure I agree with the premise of the article.  That premise being, Darvish has enough excess value (expected performance minus contract cost) to get elite prospects.

Not sure about that.  Would Darvish at age 35-36-37 at about $20m per really worth an Adell or Marsh type prospect?  I don't see that.  Even if you like Darvish more than Bauer, you can get some of Bauer's younger years (age 30-34) at maybe $25m a year without giving up an A-level prospect (just a 2nd round draft pick).

[Angels 1961]

4 hours ago, CanadianHalo said:

Anyone have any idea how Maddon’s relationship with Yu was? 

Yu should ask Yu

[IEAngelsfan]

Hmmm, the writer is suggesting that the Cubs trade Darvish, not that they indicated that they are shopping him.  Must be a slow week for news.

[Docwaukee]

Darvish may be available.  

I may win the lottery.  

I mean, I bought a ticket.  

[ten ocho recon scout]

On 12/10/2020 at 8:31 AM, CanadianHalo said:

And guess who Yu texted a lot when he was struggling with his command in 2019 for advice?

 

Bauer.

Did Bauer understand any of it?

[Lou]

[tdawg87]

Fuck Pu 

We got Yujols!

 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 12/10/2020 at 7:43 AM, Warfarin said:

Carrasco is a great target.  The Indians Spiders appear desperate to unload salary. 

Fixed.

[CanadianHalo]

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/12/16/jesse-rogers-bold-prediction-more-likely-kris-bryant-is-on-cubs-opening-day-roster-than-yu-darvish/
 

Not sure what a “monster return” would look like for a 34 year old but I am a big Darvish fan. 

The Cubs and Angels could come together for a video game-like trade. Two clubs in headed in different directions. Makes a lot of sense

[totdprods]

31 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2020/12/16/jesse-rogers-bold-prediction-more-likely-kris-bryant-is-on-cubs-opening-day-roster-than-yu-darvish/
 

Not sure what a “monster return” would look like for a 34 year old but I am a big Darvish fan. 

The Cubs and Angels could come together for a video game-like trade. Two clubs in headed in different directions. Makes a lot of sense

Darvish and Contreras plz.

[CanadianHalo]

Just now, totdprods said:

Darvish and Contreras plz.

Yep! That would be my dream scenario 

[Chuck]

28 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Darvish and Contreras plz.

 

27 minutes ago, CanadianHalo said:

Yep! That would be my dream scenario 

Yep. I wonder if they'd do Adell, Stassi, C. Rodriguez and one or two of Barria/Sandoval/Suarez in a package?

[failos]

Nah

[CanadianHalo]

1 hour ago, Chuckster70 said:

 

Yep. I wonder if they'd do Adell, Stassi, C. Rodriguez and one or two of Barria/Sandoval/Suarez in a package?

Perry saw AA swing a video game-like trade back when he was with Toronto... could we see something similar here with the Angels and Cubs?

https://www.mlb.com/cut4/the-marlins-blue-jays-trade-three-years-later/c-157673846

For the record: Miami sent Mark Buehrle, Jose Reyes, Josh Johnson, John Buck and Emilio Bonifacio to Toronto in exchange for Henderson Alvarez, Adeiny Hechavarria, Yunel Escobar, Jake Marisnick, Anthony Desclafani, Justin Nicolino and Jeff Mathis.  

[totdprods]

One reason I think we line up well with the Cubs is that guys we have that have lost some prospect luster could still fill everyday needs for the Cubs...Rengifo, Thaiss, Suarez, Barria...they wouldn’t headline but could step into MLB roles cheaply for the Cubs on Opening Day and would constitute more value there than they would with some other teams. Factor in that a Darvish deal is essentially a salary ‘dump’ in some regards, that makes it a lot easier to understand the motive for each team in consummating a deal without a ton of top talent.  

[Second Base]

I think the entire NL Central is in this holding pattern right now, and everyone is waiting to see who will make the first move.

Cardinals - May be losing Wong and Molina, which would make everyone else very competitive comparatively. Or they may re-sign both, which would make other teams selling off more palatable.

Cubs - Losing Quintana and Lester, and Theo, their main decision maker. They may not have enough pitching to compete, which makes selling a strong option. But if none of the other teams in the division invest in winning, they may still have enough to win the division. If another team steps up, they can sell Darvish, Baez, Bryant and Contreras. 

Reds - They had payroll issues, are they fixed now that they've dealt Iglesias? They look like they're going to lose Bauer too. Maybe they should reload with a fire sale which would mean dealing Sonny Gray. Or if their payroll issues are fixed now, and none of the other teams improve, they may still have enough to take the division of a wild card.

Brewers - They can't figure out if they're awesome or not. Lots of young talent, but do they have the funds to patch the holes in their roster? We honestly have no idea if that team is headed for a fire sale or a run of division crowns.

Pirates - They might trade Musgrove I guess.

They're all just kind of staring at each other waiting for the other to blink.