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Ken Rosenthal: Why Mike Trout should still be a lock for AL MVP

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Let's be clear here for a moment about how good Trout is. He is better than anyone in the AL even with a fucked up toe for half the season. He is better than anyone in the AL even missing th

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I think it's going to be a close vote and if Trout wins there will be a ton of butthurt. So hopefully he wins so I can add some dots to the butthurt map.

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Until he goes on the IL.

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8 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Or he could have collapsed in September, but he didn't. Bregman down the stretch hit .333/.486/.753/1.239 with 9 home runs to help Huston grab home field advantage. When they really needed him, Bregman was a beast the last two months. He earned every point of WAR he received. 

Yes...he literally did that...that's how WAR works

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5 minutes ago, m0nkey said:

Trout clearly had the better per game WAR, but can’t really punish Bregman for being healthy the whole season. 

 

Trout will still win though

Trout will probably win but if Bregman somehow wins it’s not a horrible decision. He definitely had a great season also. 

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The conversation about MVP every year, to me anyway, gets pretty tired.

I just don’t think it is all that complicated.

It is an annual award, so past performance should not matter.  Based 100% on this year regular season.  That means if some dude has a fluke year out of nowhere and is better than everyone else, you give it to him.

That also means you have to have the discipline  as a voter to have zero fatigue voting for the same guy every year if the same guy is the best every year.  There has to be no such thing as “He already has three MVPs and this other guy was pretty great too.”

Every player is eligible, regardless of his teams record.

Winning and intangibles CAN be a factor, but those need to be tie breakers, not drivers, and not rationalizations to give the award to a player that had an inferior year.

Trout is the MVP, and if he doesn’t win it, then it’s meaningless.

What is kind of interesting is that some writers choose to get cute in the voting presumably (at least to some degree) to display some unique professional take.  In reality, they look less professional for being selfish and lacking discipline.

Trout is the MVP, period.  The problem is it is literally too easy to see it as the obvious answer.  So some dork voters will be threatened by the obvious outcome that basically takes their personal voice out of the equation.

 

 

 

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On 9/30/2019 at 9:22 AM, Calzone 2 said:

Trout will probably win but if Bregman somehow wins it’s not a horrible decision. He definitely had a great season also. 

He wasn’t as good as Trout period.  So it doesn’t matter if he had a “great season also.”

There is one award.  It goes to one guy, and it shouldn’t be the second best guy.

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2 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Trout contributed nothing to the team in September.

Bregman had an amazing August and September helping vault the Astros past the Yankees for home field advantage. There is value in that. 

Don’t take this personally because it is not.  I make no distinction between production in April versus September.  All the games count the same in the standings.  All of them.

Otherwise the award changes.  If baseball wants to make it the Most Valuable Player in September, that’s fine.  But that’s not the award.

Its for the 2019 season.

I have no problem giving it to a guy that plays 110 games if they earn it over 110 games instead of 150.

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24 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Trout contributed nothing to the team in September.

Bregman had an amazing August and September helping vault the Astros past the Yankees for home field advantage. There is value in that. 

If the Yankees win more then is Bregmans value diminished?

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One more point I never hear anyone acknowledge:

If people really want to be honest about games played. . .

Games in April always matter.  Games in September don’t always matter.

Did the Dodger games in September matter?

So if Bellinger missed September he wasn’t as valuable in his team winning?

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27 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

One more point I never hear anyone acknowledge:

If people really want to be honest about games played. . .

Games in April always matter.  Games in September don’t always matter.

Did the Dodger games in September matter?

So if Bellinger missed September he wasn’t as valuable in his team winning?

They have the best record in the NL so they have home advantage throughout unless they meet up with Houston. Winning does matter. All season long.

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11 minutes ago, Calzone 2 said:

They have the best record in the NL so they have home advantage throughout unless they meet up with Houston. Winning does matter. All season long.

Is Bellinger more or less valuable on the 2019 Padres?

Dodgers probably would have walked away with it without him.

Bellingers value is the same to probably any team.  The difference is the value of other players around him.

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