They had a shot

[Docwaukee]

Pretty sad that they can’t beat bmore. 

They would be 3 gb of the wc if they win 2 of 3. 

Maybe they’re better off. 

[Slegnaac]

Buttercupped again.

[Angel Oracle]

As far as WC contention goes...

SEASON OVER!

[Chuck]

This is half on Eppler for not giving a shit about having good starting pitching and the other half on our lineup who has had moments of success with the bat, only to havr shit the bed overall against what is a mediocre O's pitching staff.

[GrittyVeterans]

We say this every year. The reality is, they aren’t that good. Haven’t been 6 games above .500 all year. Next year better be different

[nando714]

Baltimore all but ended the angels season this weekend

this team has been very very inconsistent much of the season though 

zero sense to trade for anything right now. Keep our pieces and please don’t waste anything for a rental for a season that’s really going nowhere. 

[Blarg]

They never had a shot this season. Both Cahill and Harvey were dumpster fires right out of the gate then Skaggs death ended the rotation for the season.

They do not have a starting rotation. They have not had a starting rotation all season. They have had fill ins and openers and a bunch of guys promoted before they were ready but not one damn week this season the Angels had five true starting pitchers. You can only go so long playing the Salt Lake shuttle before the league grinds them all into dust. 

For perspective, Tyler Skaggs stills has the most starts this season.

 

[tdawg87]

[jordan]

I really am curious how Eppler will straighten the shipwreck otherwise known as the rotation. One or two SPs aren’t going to do it. The rotation and depth are completely depleted. Each season it seems like we have depth and each season we blow right through it. The only way to fix it will be to use lots and lots of money and prospects. We can’t wait for anymore diamonds in the rough. Eppler needs to add at least one solid piece now and do the rest on the off-season. 

[AngelsFaninGA]

The reality is that Eppler has no idea how to build a pitching staff. This happens every single year, and by August everyone is ether injured or sucking and we start routinely giving up 7+ runs a game and the offense just can't catch up. We need a healthy Ohtani + Cole + a trade for Syndergaard or similar to even build the foundation of a decent staff, and then hope Suarez and Canning make major strides, because right now it's completely barren. 

[tdawg87]

8 minutes ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

The reality is that Eppler has no idea how to build a pitching staff. This happens every single year, and by August everyone is ether injured or sucking and we start routinely giving up 7+ runs a game and the offense just can't catch up. We need a healthy Ohtani + Cole + a trade for Syndergaard or similar to even build the foundation of a decent staff, and then hope Suarez and Canning make major strides, because right now it's completely barren. 

I mean to be fair Eppler can't control guys getting hurt (Heaney, Ohtani) or literally dying (Skaggs).

I do agree we need two starters, and one of them needs to be of the Cole or Syndergaard variety. Can't keep relying on reclamation projects off the scrap heap. 

[Angel Oracle]

Either trade for Grienke and his salary plus Ray and minimize the prospects dealt, or sign Cole and trade for a solid mid-rotation guy.

They for sure need two solid guys.  Then they can build the rest of the rotation from Ohtani, Heaney, Canning, Suarez, Pena, Barria, and Sandoval (the ones not traded).

No more one year plug in acquisitions, except for AAAA depth!   Four years of that is enough!

[fan_since79]

5 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

This is half on Eppler for not giving a shit about having good starting pitching and the other half on our lineup who has had moments of success with the bat, only to havr shit the bed overall against what is a mediocre O's pitching staff.

...and the pitchers to allow so many hits/runs to a decidedly inferior offense.

 

[fan_since79]

19 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

I mean to be fair Eppler can't control guys getting hurt (Heaney, Ohtani) or literally dying (Skaggs).

I do agree we need two starters, and one of them needs to be of the Cole or Syndergaard variety. Can't keep relying on reclamation projects off the scrap heap. 

What really hurt this year (besides the tragic passing of Skaggs) are the two failed reclamation projects Cahill and Harvey, the continuing injuries to Heaney, and then you have to bring up guys (Canning, Suarez) before their time. I remember we were thinking of Canning as someone to save our season. Really?! The whole thing is a mess. That has to be fixed big time before we can hope for playoff success. That's a million miles away right now.

[Stradling]

Why do people call Cahill a reclamation project?  Cahill has a sub 4 ERA last year as a starter in our division.  

[tdawg87]

I think this was a perfect year to let Canning and Suarez take their bumps. I mean that's entirely hindsight talking but better to get them as many innings as possible against MLB hitters. I expect much more from Canning next year. Suarez may need more time but we'll see. I also think Barria is much better than his ERA indicates.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Why do people call Cahill a reclamation project?  Cahill has a sub 4 ERA last year as a starter in our division.  

I think it's fair since he hasn't had a full season as a starter since 2013. Or technically 2012.

[Stradling]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

I think it's fair since he hasn't had a full season as a starter since 2013. Or technically 2012.

I guess but he was a starter last year, started 20 games with an ERA+ of 109.  Maybe I just see it differently.  

[TroutAdell]

5 hours ago, fan_since79 said:

...and the pitchers to allow so many hits/runs to a decidedly inferior offense.

 

Actually, the Orioles gave been swinging hot bats since the break. When you trot out Tropeano and Peters you can’t expect to win. There is no starting pitching at AAA and nothing remotely ready at AA. Time to hit up the Indy leagues. 

[UndertheHalo]

They still have a shot.  They just did what the Angels do and buttercupped.  We’ll see if they do better.  Probably they won’t.  But who knows. 

[Lou]

1 hour ago, UndertheHalo said:

They still have a shot.  They just did what the Angels do and buttercupped.  We’ll see if they do better.  Probably they won’t.  But who knows. 

I do 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

And Marcus Stroman was just traded to the Mets.

[Lou]

"They had a shot"

 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

57 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

And Marcus Stroman was just traded to the Mets.

Thats.... weird?

I assume another trade is coming....

[Stradling]

So who do they trade Syndergaard to?  San Diego?  Yankees?  Twins?