Who gets sent down when Ohtani is activated?

[Torridd]

Thoughts?

[Chuck]

I would like a double move to happen here. 

Bour DFA'd, Thaiss or Ward to remain. Ward can play 3B, 1B and LF. Thaiss can play 1B and 3B. 

I'm just done with Bour. He's only good for one thing and that's hitting HR's, which he's not really doing for us. He may take an occasional walk, but he's both slow on the bases and dumb. 

[Tank]

while i don't disagree with the sentiments about bour, i think they'll give him a longer leash to try and correct things.

i think rengifo goes back to salt lake. i think bourjos is here only until upton comes back.

[eligrba]

Just now, Tank said:

while i don't disagree with the sentiments about bour, i think they'll give him a longer leash to try and correct things.

i think rengifo goes back to salt lake. i think bourjos is here only until upton comes back.

Hermosilla really missed a great opportunity.

[rafibomb]

Bour is staying. Rengifo will get sent back down to Salt Lake.

[Chuck]

1 minute ago, rafibomb said:

Bour is staying. Rengifo will get sent back down to Salt Lake.

Most likely what will happen. Rengifo needs every day at bats.

Though with La Stella's back injury, Rengifo could stick around longer. 

 

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, eligrba said:

Hermosilla really missed a great opportunity.

He's had a couple opportunities and he hasn't looked like a major leaguer -yet. 

That said, I would rather have him than Bourjos on our roster. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

 

[greginpsca]

Three guys will be needed to be sent down. Ward was up as a 26th man just for the Mexico series. Ohtani and Allen are supposedly being activated tuesday. So if they send Ward back down, 2 more will need to go to open spots for Ohtani and Allen.

[Inside Pitch]

Not sure how much longer they want to experiment with Stratton but, you'd think it's come close to running its course.

[Angel Oracle]

5 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Not sure how much longer they want to experiment with Stratton but, you'd think it's come close to running its course.

I'm good with DFA'ing him now.   He has never proven that he can pitch at this level.

In 2018, while pitching half of the time in an extreme pitchers' park (S.F.), he still had a 5.09 ERA and 1.42 WHIP as a starter.

[Chuck]

4 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Not sure how much longer they want to experiment with Stratton but, you'd think it's come close to running its course.

Yeah, I think his 2018 showing and what he's done so far in '19 tell the entire story. It looks like his 2017 season was more of a fluke. 

Can't blame Eppler for trying to trade a reliever for a guy who could rediscover that '17 season, but enough is enough. This guy hasn't shown me a damn thing on the mound. 

Stratton's .344 BAA and 2.08 WHIP is enough to make one vomit. Oh and HOLY HELL, I cannot believe Cahill (known for being a groundball pitcher) has given up 12 HR's. Looks like Doug White's spin rate coaching isn't that great. The only thing spinning is that baseball screaming over the fence and into the stands after Cahill delivers it.

[Angel Oracle]

Even in 2017, Stratton walked close to 5 batters per 9 innings and had a 1.48 WHIP. 

[stormngt]

10 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Yeah, I think his 2018 showing and what he's done so far in '19 tell the entire story. It looks like his 2017 season was more of a fluke. 

Can't blame Eppler for trying to trade a reliever for a guy who could rediscover that '17 season, but enough is enough. This guy hasn't shown me a damn thing on the mound. 

Stratton's .344 BAA and 2.08 WHIP is enough to make one vomit. Oh and HOLY HELL, I cannot believe Cahill (known for being a groundball pitcher) has given up 12 HR's. Looks like Doug White's spin rate coaching isn't that great. The only thing spinning is that baseball screaming over the fence and into the stands after Cahill delivers it.

Yes I di blame Eppler on this one.  We didnt need Stratton. we had Barria.  We gave up a prospect for a starter we did not need and screwed with s guys mind in Barria.  

[ScottT]

Stratton can go.  He's been so bad, he may not be claimed. 

[ScottT]

Pena can be a multi inning guy out of the bullpen.   What would Stratton's role be?  Mop up guy?  The way teams use relievers, I can't see keeping a guy like that around.   I hope they don't option Justin Anderson again.

[Chuck]

28 minutes ago, ScottT said:

Pena can be a multi inning guy out of the bullpen.   What would Stratton's role be?  Mop up guy?  The way teams use relievers, I can't see keeping a guy like that around.   I hope they don't option Justin Anderson again.

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[mmc]

Hopefully Bour, he is useless.

[Jeff Fletcher]

3 minutes ago, mymerlincat said:

Hopefully Bour, he is useless.

Bour won’t be released since he has options but perhaps there’s a scenario where they option him and have La Stella play 1B one or two times a week when Pujols can’t. 

That does make the bench kinda difficult to maneuver for a long time, but they could do it just to give Bour a solid 2 weeks or something of everyday ABs at AAA. Then they can re-evaluate. 

[mmc]

Just now, Jeff Fletcher said:

Bour won’t be released since he has options but perhaps there’s a scenario where they option him and have La Stella play 1B one or two times a week when Pujols can’t. 

That does make the bench kinda difficult to maneuver for a long time, but they could do it just to give Bour a solid 2 weeks or something of everyday ABs at AAA. Then they can re-evaluate. 

This is what I'd be in favor of.

[ScottT]

Bour will probably hit .280/.430/.750 with Salt Lake.  

[Jeff Fletcher]

The Bour move really depends on a few factors, none involving Bour.

-How much 1B can Pujols handle without breaking?

-How much 1B can La Stella handle without butchering things. 

-Is Ohtani going to play every single day? 5 days a week? 

All that comes into play. 

[PattyD22]

3 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Yeah, I think his 2018 showing and what he's done so far in '19 tell the entire story. It looks like his 2017 season was more of a fluke. 

Can't blame Eppler for trying to trade a reliever for a guy who could rediscover that '17 season, but enough is enough. This guy hasn't shown me a damn thing on the mound. 

Stratton's .344 BAA and 2.08 WHIP is enough to make one vomit. Oh and HOLY HELL, I cannot believe Cahill (known for being a groundball pitcher) has given up 12 HR's. Looks like Doug White's spin rate coaching isn't that great. The only thing spinning is that baseball screaming over the fence and into the stands after Cahill delivers it.

My God.  Aside from Skaggs, these numbers are simply awful.  Not that I was expecting any better, but honestly I haven't looked at the season numbers yet because I knew they would be bad.  But tossing Skaggs out of this, these numbers are brutal 
  

[Stradling]

4 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

I would like a double move to happen here. 

Bour DFA'd, Thaiss or Ward to remain. Ward can play 3B, 1B and LF. Thaiss can play 1B and 3B. 

I'm just done with Bour. He's only good for one thing and that's hitting HR's, which he's not really doing for us. He may take an occasional walk, but he's both slow on the bases and dumb. 

Bour will be sent down when that time comes, he has an option left.  No reason to release a guy that is two years removed from a .900 OPS season.

[Stradling]

3 hours ago, stormngt said:

Yes I di blame Eppler on this one.  We didnt need Stratton. we had Barria.  We gave up a prospect for a starter we did not need and screwed with s guys mind in Barria.  

Yes, we may not have needed Stratton but we needed another pitcher.  Remember we lost Skaggs AND Heaney.  So both Stratton and Barria were in the rotation at the same time.