At what point do we lock Mike Trout up for life?

[gotbeer]

See Ryan Howard.  

[Chimi]

Evan Longoria got 10/136. Trout would probably at least ask for the same yearly value if not more.

[Jimmag]

Should have done it before yesterday now he is going to want more money.

[gotbeer]

Evan Longoria got 10/136. Trout would probably at least ask for the same yearly value if not more.

 

But Longoria was given that contract I believe before he saw a pitch in the MLB.

[Stradling]

Evan Longoria got 10/136. Trout would probably at least ask for the same yearly value if not more.

That was his second contract. His first was around 6 years $17 million.

[gotbeer]

That was his second contract. His first was around 6 years $17 million.

 

 

that's right, forgot about that one.

[REDemption]

Lock him in before he goes to arbitration. End of this season would be ideal. If his numbers stay consistent for a freak of a ball player then 10/$150 would be solid and a deal for the Angels.

[Angel Oracle]

Good point Reveille, which is why I think an appropriate contract after 2014 for both sides would be say 6 years for $100 million.

Wells' contract ends after 2014, and thus that money can be used towards Trout's new deal.

Trout would then still only be 29 (30 in mid-season) to start his new contract after the 6 year contract concludes.

 

But, they should make sure to pay him several million in 2014, instead of just a million, if he continue to hit like this.

That would make negotiating the next contract easier.

[Docwaukee]

pujols first contract with the cards was 7/100 with an option of 16mil.  15mil is deferred til 2020. 

 

he had three years in the majors before he signed the deal.   Both were of similar (reported) ages at the time of their rookie years.

 

I think Trout will get 8/120 with a 25mil option and a 4-5mil buyout. 

[Tank]

i like to see a well-established pattern, so i'd wait until after next season to start offering one of these mega-deals to him.

 

my running joke on here has always been 7/120. i'd start there with trout and see what he's looking for - but not until after next season.

[AZMike]

i like to see a well-established pattern, so i'd wait until after next season to start offering one of these mega-deals to him.

 

my running joke on here has always been 7/120. i'd start there with trout and see what he's looking for - but not until after next season.

I don't think the Angels will offer Trout a long term extension until after Vernon Wells is off the books due to luxury tax implications. 

[stormngt]

Evan Longoria got 10/136. Trout would probably at least ask for the same yearly value if not more.

He would get more than what Evan got.  10/150 million.

[stormngt]

I don't think the Angels will offer Trout a long term extension until after Vernon Wells is off the books due to luxury tax implications. 

isn't Vernon off the books for luxury taxes because he no longer is on the team?

[AZMike]

isn't Vernon off the books for luxury taxes because he no longer is on the team?

Cash considerations sent to other teams in trades count against the luxury tax. Angels will be paying 1/3rd of Wells salary this year an almost all of it next year. Payouts were structured this way to help the Yankees get under their own luxury tax next year. 

[stormngt]

Cash considerations sent to other teams in trades count against the luxury tax. Angels will be paying 1/3rd of Wells salary this year an almost all of it next year. Payouts were structured this way to help the Yankees get under their own luxury tax next year. 

Well in that case offer Trout a long term deal at the end of this year; just keep 2014 salary low enough to keep us under the salary cap.

 

The longer we wait to sign him long term, the less incentive he will have to sign with us.  Thus the more likelihood we lose him to FA.

 

I say lock him up sooner than later.  Just structure the contract appropriately.

[AZMike]

Well in that case offer Trout a long term deal at the end of this year; just keep 2014 salary low enough to keep us under the salary cap.

 

The longer we wait to sign him long term, the less incentive he will have to sign with us.  Thus the more likelihood we lose him to FA.

 

I say lock him up sooner than later.  Just structure the contract appropriately.

 

Structuring the contract to get around the tax is actually a loophole that only works in trades, not players on your team.

 

In general the tax is based on the average value of the contract, not the amount paid year by year. You don't get around it by backloading. If we offer Trout a 10 year $160M contract after this year, it counts against the Angels for $16M even if the payouts are structred to only actually give him league minimum in 2014. 

[Halos of Anaheim]

I say wait until Wells and Blanton are off the books and then give Trout an 8/120 contract which would put him in free agency by the time he's 31 years old. Pujols and Hamilton cashed in at that age, I don't see why Trout can't either.

[Troutipoo27]

15 year-300? I'm down

[The God of Runs]

15 years /$300 million as a player

Then 20 year/$200 million as a manager

[AZMike]

15 years /$300 million as a player

Then 20 year/$200 million as a manager

 

Moreno should just give Trout the title for the team after Trout retires.

[tdawg87]

I'd start at 10/180. It puts Mike and his agent's balls in a vice and basically says "here is 18 million a year for the next decade. You can take that, or make half that in arbitration in two years."

[AZMike]

I'd start at 10/180. It puts Mike and his agent's balls in a vice and basically says "here is 18 million a year for the next decade. You can take that, or make half that in arbitration in two years."

12/180, frontloaded

 

If you expect to incur luxury tax penalties it's better to frontload

[YouthofToday]

Trout will be what, 27 when he reaches FA? He could probably get 10/$300 million+ then -- especially since hardly any historic ball players hot FA during their prime. Arod was the last.

Everybody is radically short what it would take to buy out any FA years.

[Hollyw00d]

Now!!!!

[Scott34]

Everyone needs to calm down. He hasn't even hit arbitration yet.

After next year sounds good to me.