Joe Girardi Not Returning To Yankees

[Puget Sound Angel]

Sit out a year, do some TV, then replace Sosh?

[Chuck]

5 hours ago, Bruce Nye said:

Jeter might step in with an offer to manage his Miami team.  

I can totally see this happening. 

[Chuck]

34 minutes ago, Puget Sound Angel said:

Sit out a year, do some TV, then replace Sosh?

I'll take it. 

[Second Base]

It's weird that Farrell, Baker and Girardi get the axe after successful seasons yet Scioscia remains.

Maybe teams have different ways of evaluating their managers.

[Brian Ilten]

14 minutes ago, Scotty@AW said:

It's weird that Farrell, Baker and Girardi get the axe after successful seasons yet Scioscia remains.

Maybe teams have different ways of evaluating their managers.

I would love to know what the "Angels Way" is... outside of the obvious - with their heads up their collective asses.

[Stradling]

5 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I didn't really watch any Yankees games so I have no idea what his style is. Would he even fit based on the players the Angels have? The yanks definitely had more talent than the Angels I'm just curious as to how he managed his starters/bullpen.

I could be wrong but I think he was good at bullpen management.  I also think the players liked him.  He was good with the media.  Is he the best, no, but he’s certainly a good respected manager.  

[WeatherWonk]

Most of the speculation I've heard is that Cashman and Girardi did not get along anymore.

I think it will go to someone within the organization.

[Tank]

48 minutes ago, WeatherWonk said:

Most of the speculation I've heard is that Cashman and Girardi did not get along anymore.

I think it will go to someone within the organization.

interesting. someone on espn this morning was saying that girardi is not "a players manager." 

heard he also may not be someone who embraces sabre stats, either (but this wasn't said with any kind of authority, just typical espn guesswork research).

[Corona]

The trend seems to be going with managers that are analytical and relate to the younger players well. Not to sure where sciosca falls in that criteria but hed get a job elsewhere ASAP if we canned him. Can’t say the same for some others. 

[CaliAngel]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

compared to how much money he ate for the contracts of players like hamilton and matthews, i think i disagree with you.

Right. Which is why he specifically said in his post, "for a manager."

[tomsred]

5 hours ago, Scotty@AW said:

It's weird that Farrell, Baker and Girardi get the axe after successful seasons yet Scioscia remains.

Maybe teams have different ways of evaluating their managers.

I think that teams obviously have different ways of evaluating their managers.  I don't see that as a problem.  If whoever they hire meets their personal criteria of what's important in the job, and they fulfill those criteria then they are happy and keep them.  Owner/Baseball Operations criteria don't necessarily have to agree with the criteria of the fans.  A baseball team is not run by the fans, it's run by an ownership or ownership group.  Fans are the customers.  It's pretty simple really.

[Troll Daddy]

Just say no to recycled managers

[Second Base]

23 minutes ago, tomsred said:

I think that teams obviously have different ways of evaluating their managers.  I don't see that as a problem.  If whoever they hire meets their personal criteria of what's important in the job, and they fulfill those criteria then they are happy and keep them.  Owner/Baseball Operations criteria don't necessarily have to agree with the criteria of the fans.  A baseball team is not run by the fans, it's run by an ownership or ownership group.  Fans are the customers.  It's pretty simple really.

Yeah I just think it's interesting. In this statcast era where everything is quantitative, the hiring and firing of a manager is a very qualitative action.

[kevinb]

The Angels greatly overachieved with Mike as manager this year. No one thought we would be as good as we were this year. With missing Trout for a month. Girardi as the manager this year wouldn’t have made a difference. 

[WeatherWonk]

14 hours ago, Kevinb said:

The Angels greatly overachieved with Mike as manager this year. No one thought we would be as good as we were this year. With missing Trout for a month. Girardi as the manager this year wouldn’t have made a difference. 

I have been down on Scioscia for a while, but last year might have been his finest year of managing. 2002, 2005 and 2009 werent as difficult because we actually had very good teams.

T

[Troll Daddy]

The Yankees could have their sights on Mike Scioscia and trade for him after the playoffs 

it could happen 

[Angelsfan1984]

14 minutes ago, Troll Daddy said:

The Yankees could have their sights on Mike Scioscia and trade for him after the playoffs 

it could happen 

Give us that international pool money and you have a deal!

[Lou]

On 10/26/2017 at 12:55 PM, Brian Ilten said:

You are correct.  El Catorce LEAVING suddenly makes the Angels a good ball club.

 

...just sayin'

Yep. Cron won't endure horrendous slumps, our starting left fielder and second basemen will battle it out for MVP and every pitcher will have an era under 3.00 - while remaining healthy for the entire season. 

Oh, and parking, beer and Trout hats will be free. 

Edited October 27, 2017 by Lou

[Lou]

If watching this year's playoffs haven't convinced you that all managers make horrible decisions, you really need to open your eyes. 

[Blarg]

Girardi wasn't fired, they just didn't renew his contract. Just like after next season the Angels won't fire Mike Scioscia. 

[Ohtaniland]

55 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Girardi wasn't fired, they just didn't renew his contract. Just like after next season the Angels won't fire Mike Scioscia. 

It’s a matter of semantics. When you’re told that you’re not getting an extension after 10 years of solid managing, You’re Fired! It’s the Steinbrenner way.

 

[Blarg]

Nice agenda but the Angels didn't fire Weaver after his contract expired. They just didn't offer him a new one like all contract labor. Same as Girardi but it is more sensational to say he's fired. 

[Lou]

Maddon sure is firing a lot of his coaches. 

I hear he's opening up a Scapegoats-R-Us in Chicago for Xmas. 

[Lou]

The Yankees will have a new manager next season. Yesterday morning the team announced they have parted ways with Joe Girardi, and “parted ways” is the best way to describe it. Girardi’s contract expired after the season, so he wasn’t fired and he didn’t quit. The Yankees are just moving on now that his contract is up. That’s how the Joe Torre era ended. 

Edited October 28, 2017 by Lou

[Lou]

On October 26, 2017 at 3:02 PM, Brian Ilten said:

I would love to know what the "Angels Way" is... outside of the obvious - with their heads up their collective asses.

I guess that goes for 17 other organizations as well.