The Truth is Out There. Conspiracy Theories

[AngelsLakersFan]

45 minutes ago, PattyD22 said:

 

I thought they already did?

Undeniable evidence right there

[PattyD22]

3 minutes ago, AngelsLakersFan said:

Undeniable evidence right there

Spielberg knew the truth

[gotbeer]

5 hours ago, PattyD22 said:

Spielberg knew the truth

Spielberg was hired by the government to hide the truth in plain sight.  You just need to make fact fiction to discredit the fact. 

[gotbeer]

Monster hunters are conducting the largest search of Loch Ness in more than 50 years

[Jason]

3 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Monster hunters are conducting the largest search of Loch Ness in more than 50 years

Must be nice to have that kind of time and money to waste. 

[cals]

On 7/28/2023 at 7:07 PM, gotbeer said:

U.S. recovered non-human 'biologics' from UFO crash sites, former intel official says

I found a pic of the aliens they found:

[gotbeer]

Nessie hunters hear sounds but fail to record them

 

[gotbeer]

 

VIDEO: Bigfoot reportedly spotted from train in remote part of Colorado

[Tank]

13 hours ago, gotbeer said:

 

VIDEO: Bigfoot reportedly spotted from train in remote part of Colorado

$20 says it was @Spirit in his rock star days.

[RallyMo]

On 10/12/2023 at 4:30 PM, Tank said:

$20 says it was @Spirit in his rock star days.

Now begins the time to chase Chase.

[HanfordGuy]

What We Know and Still Don’t Know About JFK’s Assassination
 

https://time.com/6338396/jfk-assassination-conspiracy-culture/
 

This Wednesday marks 60 years since America’s youngest President John F. Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, at the age of 46 by Lee Harvey Oswald. He was shot while riding in a car with his wife First Lady Jackie Onassis and Texas Governor John Connally during a tour of the state. Two days later, local nightclub owner Jack Ruby shot Oswald on Nov. 24, 1963. 

Sixty years after the JFK assassination, it’s still unclear why Oswald shot the president, fueling countless conspiracies—like whether his successor Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the assassination. (He was not.) The continued fascination over who killed JFK and why helps provide context for the conspiracy theories that continue to dominate American politics today.
The definitive account of what happened the day of the assassination is the report produced by the Warren Commission. Just a week after JFK’s death, Johnson signed an executive order that created the commission, headed by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Earl Warren, to investigate the death of the President. Ten months later, its report confirmed that Oswaldfired the shots that killed JFK and wounded Connally, and that there is “no evidence” that Oswald or Jack Ruby were part of a domestic conspiracy or that a foreign government was behind the assassination. The report did not determine why Oswald shot JFK; as TIME reported in 1964, “The explanation of Oswald's motive for killing President Kennedy was buried with him.”

“I don't think we fully understood how many people just could not give up the idea that there was a conspiracy,” says Burt Griffin, assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, and author of JFK, Oswald and Ruby: Politics, Prejudice and Truth.

The killing of the President helped fuel a climate of mistrust in the 1960s that grew with the assassinations in 1968 of Martin Luther King, Jr. and JFK’s brother Robert F. Kennedy, says Larry Sabato, author of The Kennedy Half Century: The Presidency, Assassination, and Lasting Legacy of John F. Kennedy. The ongoing Vietnam War and the Watergate scandal in the early 1970s contributed to a culture of conspiracies. “As a society, we became addicted to conspiracy theories because of the Kennedy assassination,” Sabato says. 

Since the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, the government has been declassifying documents related to JFK’s assassination. But according to experts on the JFK assassination that TIME talked to, no major revelations have been found in these document dumps in the 60 years since the President was killed.

“No new information has been revealed or exposed that really alter the course of our understanding of what happened,” says Nicola Longford, CEO of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza, a museum all about the JFK assassination located in the building where Oswald shot JFK. 
 

Some eyewitnesses to the JFK assassination are still alive. National Geographic’s new docuseries out Nov. 5 is told through archival footage from the Sixth Floor museum and eyewitnesses from the Associated Press reporter Peggy Simpson to Clint Hill, a Secret Service agent who tried to shield the Kennedys from bullets.

“The 60th anniversary is the last round-year anniversary in which we’re going to have eyewitnesses to the assassination coming up with any news,” says Gerald Posner, author of Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK.

The most prominent eyewitness account that surfaced this year is from Paul Landis, 88, who was on Jackie Kennedy’s Secret Service detail and has opened up about his role on that fateful day in a new memoir that came out in October. Per a Sep. 9 New York Times article, Landis was riding in a convertible behind the presidential limousine and claims that he found an intact bullet in the seam of the limousine’s cushioning, slipped it into his coat pocket, and left it on Kennedy’s stretcher. The bullet then ended up on Connally’s empty stretcher, as a hospital staffer was moving them around. The Warren Commission did not locate the bullet on JFK’s stretcher. 

But the fact that Landis has not spoken up for 60 years has raised some questions about his account and how accurate his memory is, as well as the fact that the Warren Commission didn’t interview him. Even the 2023 Times article concluded that “A couple elements of his account contradict the official statements he filed with authorities immediately after the shooting, and some of the implications of his version cannot be easily reconciled to the existing record.”

One big reason that JFK assassination conspiracy theories still persist is because not all of the filespertaining to that fateful day have been made available by the U.S. government. All of them were supposed to be released by 2017, but the release date has been postponed multiple times during the Trump and Biden administrations. Sabato, who does deep dives into the declassified JFK assassination files with his students at the University of Virginia, says there are thousands of pages that are classified and it’s unclear why. “We don't know what they cover and so that feeds the conspiracies even more,” as Sabato puts it. “What are they hiding?” Posner agrees, but given Oswald never went to trial, he argues, “You're never going to feel as though the case is really settled.”

[HanfordGuy]

2 minutes ago, HanfordGuy said:

What We Know and Still Don’t Know About JFK’s Assassination
 

https://time.com/6338396/jfk-assassination-conspiracy-culture/
 

This Wednesday marks 60 years since America’s youngest President John F. Kennedy was assassinated on Nov. 22, 1963, in Dallas, Texas, at the age of 46 by Lee Harvey Oswald. He was shot while riding in a car with his wife First Lady Jackie Onassis and Texas Governor John Connally during a tour of the state. Two days later, local nightclub owner Jack Ruby shot Oswald on Nov. 24, 1963. 

Sixty years after the JFK assassination, it’s still unclear why Oswald shot the president, fueling countless conspiracies—like whether his successor Lyndon B. Johnson was behind the assassination. (He was not.) The continued fascination over who killed JFK and why helps provide context for the conspiracy theories that continue to dominate American politics today.
The definitive account of what happened the day of the assassination is the report produced by the Warren Commission. Just a week after JFK’s death, Johnson signed an executive order that created the commission, headed by the Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court Earl Warren, to investigate the death of the President. Ten months later, its report confirmed that Oswaldfired the shots that killed JFK and wounded Connally, and that there is “no evidence” that Oswald or Jack Ruby were part of a domestic conspiracy or that a foreign government was behind the assassination. The report did not determine why Oswald shot JFK; as TIME reported in 1964, “The explanation of Oswald's motive for killing President Kennedy was buried with him.”

“I don't think we fully understood how many people just could not give up the idea that there was a conspiracy,” says Burt Griffin, assistant counsel on the Warren Commission, and author of JFK, Oswald and Ruby: Politics, Prejudice and Truth.

The killing of the President helped fuel a climate of mistrust in the 1960s that grew with the assassinations in 1968 of Martin Luther King, Jr. and JFK’s brother Robert F. Kennedy, says Larry Sabato, author of The Kennedy Half Century: The Presidency, Assassination, and Lasting Legacy of John F. Kennedy. The ongoing Vietnam War and the Watergate scandal in the early 1970s contributed to a culture of conspiracies. “As a society, we became addicted to conspiracy theories because of the Kennedy assassination,” Sabato says. 

Since the President John F. Kennedy Assassination Records Collection Act of 1992, the government has been declassifying documents related to JFK’s assassination. But according to experts on the JFK assassination that TIME talked to, no major revelations have been found in these document dumps in the 60 years since the President was killed.

“No new information has been revealed or exposed that really alter the course of our understanding of what happened,” says Nicola Longford, CEO of the Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza, a museum all about the JFK assassination located in the building where Oswald shot JFK. 
 

Some eyewitnesses to the JFK assassination are still alive. National Geographic’s new docuseries out Nov. 5 is told through archival footage from the Sixth Floor museum and eyewitnesses from the Associated Press reporter Peggy Simpson to Clint Hill, a Secret Service agent who tried to shield the Kennedys from bullets.

“The 60th anniversary is the last round-year anniversary in which we’re going to have eyewitnesses to the assassination coming up with any news,” says Gerald Posner, author of Case Closed: Lee Harvey Oswald and the Assassination of JFK.

The most prominent eyewitness account that surfaced this year is from Paul Landis, 88, who was on Jackie Kennedy’s Secret Service detail and has opened up about his role on that fateful day in a new memoir that came out in October. Per a Sep. 9 New York Times article, Landis was riding in a convertible behind the presidential limousine and claims that he found an intact bullet in the seam of the limousine’s cushioning, slipped it into his coat pocket, and left it on Kennedy’s stretcher. The bullet then ended up on Connally’s empty stretcher, as a hospital staffer was moving them around. The Warren Commission did not locate the bullet on JFK’s stretcher. 

But the fact that Landis has not spoken up for 60 years has raised some questions about his account and how accurate his memory is, as well as the fact that the Warren Commission didn’t interview him. Even the 2023 Times article concluded that “A couple elements of his account contradict the official statements he filed with authorities immediately after the shooting, and some of the implications of his version cannot be easily reconciled to the existing record.”

One big reason that JFK assassination conspiracy theories still persist is because not all of the filespertaining to that fateful day have been made available by the U.S. government. All of them were supposed to be released by 2017, but the release date has been postponed multiple times during the Trump and Biden administrations. Sabato, who does deep dives into the declassified JFK assassination files with his students at the University of Virginia, says there are thousands of pages that are classified and it’s unclear why. “We don't know what they cover and so that feeds the conspiracies even more,” as Sabato puts it. “What are they hiding?” Posner agrees, but given Oswald never went to trial, he argues, “You're never going to feel as though the case is really settled.”

[HanfordGuy]

One of the last times I get to use this incredible photoshop job. RIP Phil.

[Tank]

I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth behind JFKs assassination. 

The investigation was poorly done. We continue to hear about witnesses that weren’t interviewed or evidence that wasn’t handled properly. the fact that the autopsy was performed by someone who had never done one before, and that the secret service was inside the autopsy room telling people right and left what to do just lends itself to so much conjecture about what was really going on and casts legitimate doubt over most of their conclusions. 
 

The fact that Kennedys brain went missing just smells of a pretty large coverup. 
 

The fact that so many cling to the magic bullet is unsupportable. For that bullet to have done as much damage to as many bones as they claim isn’t reasonable. 
 

I’m greatly bothered that the fatal headshot, with a trajectory from left to right, is accepted to have been fired from a position of right to left and down angled. I’m not buying it, and no one seems to want to pursue it. 
 

Watched a documentary last night that concluded that Kennedy was shot by a SS agent in the chase car with an AR-15 by accident. Pure nonsense. 

Edited November 22, 2023 by Tank

[Kevin]

5 hours ago, Tank said:

I don’t think we’ll ever know the full truth behind JFKs assassination. 

The investigation was poorly done. We continue to hear about witnesses that weren’t interviewed or evidence that wasn’t handled properly. the fact that the autopsy was performed by someone who had never done one before, and that the secret service was inside the autopsy room telling people right and left what to do just lends itself to so much conjecture about what was really going on and casts legitimate doubt over most of their conclusions. 
 

The fact that Kennedys brain went missing just smells of a pretty large coverup. 
 

The fact that so many cling to the magic bullet is unsupportable. For that bullet to have done as much damage to as many bones as they claim isn’t reasonable. 
 

I’m greatly bothered that the fatal headshot, with a trajectory from left to right, is accepted to have been fired from a position of right to left and down angled. I’m not buying it, and no one seems to want to pursue it. 
 

Watched a documentary last night that concluded that Kennedy was shot by a SS agent in the chase car with an AR-15 by accident. Pure nonsense. 

If you have an hour and a half to kill, really good video Tank. He comes to the opposite conclusion but still great information. Guy makes quality content, including one on Jack the Ripper.

 

 

[Tank]

Thanks, I’ll check it out. 

[Redondo]

A former paratrooper is making an incredible claim about a crashed UFO being recovered.

One of the most stunning claims made by whistleblower David Grusch is that there's some kind of UFO recovery program. Journalist Michael Shellenberger also claimed the government is hiding as many as a dozen downed crafts. Now, a claim is going viral that the British recovered a craft more than 30 years ago.

Franc Milburn, a former member of the British Army's Parachute Regiment, told the Daily Mail that a former member of an MI6 unit known as E Squadron - identified as John - confessed to him that the unit recovered a crashed alien UFO.

E Squadron recruits the top guys out of the SAS, SBS and SRR and is similar to the CIA's SOG and the military's Delta Force, according to the same report.

https://www.outkick.com/culture/crashed-ufo-british-commandos-claim

[gotbeer]

Anyone have any idea what this might be?  My buddy filmed it in Joshua Tree last night.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/293731280427015 

[T.G.]

Yes