Justice department says it will end private prisons

[Make Angels Great Again]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/08/18/justice-department-says-it-will-end-use-of-private-prisons/?utm_term=.d6b75e5f8460

 

Good effing riddance.

[nate]

[ABC]

Prison problem solved.

[red321]

This is fabulous news. 

[red321]

This is fabulous news. 

[Adam]

How bout we stop busting drug users 

[Adam]

How bout we stop busting drug users 

[gotbeer]

We should bring back hard labor for criminals.  Instead of club Fed.

[gotbeer]

We should bring back hard labor for criminals.  Instead of club Fed.

[Jason]

12 minutes ago, Adam said:

How bout we stop busting drug users 

Yeah right. They'll just spend billions more on the Federal prison system now.

[gotbeer]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

How bout we stop busting drug users 

Why would they want to get rid of the war on drugs and illegal seizures?  The po po need to get paid somehow. 

[mtangelsfan]

This is very good news

[Adam]

All this does is prevent businesses from making money off of over-criminalization and mass incarceration, which is fine. When the government is your client you're not really a private company. The public prisons will be overcrowded again and the prisoners will still be prisoners. 

[nate]

1 hour ago, Adam said:

All this does is prevent businesses from making money off of over-criminalization and mass incarceration, which is fine. When the government is your client you're not really a private company. The public prisons will be overcrowded again and the prisoners will still be prisoners. 

But it keeps private prison companies from lobbying against bills to legalize weed.  They are major contributors.  They also were the driving force behind mandatory minimums.

[Stradling]

 For those of us who have never given this a second of thought, why is this good news? 

[nate]

9 minutes ago, Stradling said:

 For those of us who have never given this a second of thought, why is this good news? 

Because private prison companies made big $ off of crime so they actively lobbied for more.

[Adam]

1 hour ago, nate said:

But it keeps private prison companies from lobbying against bills to legalize weed.  They are major contributors.  They also were the driving force behind mandatory minimums.

If this means that non-violent crime sentences are reduced or reformed the. Fantastic. But people are stupid and want to be "safe". I seriously doubt this leads to that. This is just lefty anti-rich guy bullshit. Hope I'm wrong

[Vegas Halo Fan]

As a long time prison system employee, I concede that my opinion is not fully objective. That said, aside from the fact that more available prisons encourage increased incarceration, private facilities simply don't do as good a job overall as government-built facilities. The prison where I worked for eight years until last fall was built and originally operated by a private prison company. The salaries that they paid correctional officers were about a third less than the state paid, their screening was far less rigorous, and the results were obvious. There were constant issues with officers getting involved with inmates (one of my first tasks when I arrived was to oversee the pregnancy testing of every inmate under age 50), and they were not properly trained to work with inmates. In the overall design of the place, inadequacies abound. Blind spots are everywhere, and there is no flow to the design. It was clearly designed to be built as cheaply as possible rather than to be functional.

[Make Angels Great Again]

An area where Nate and I agree.

 

Giant Meteor might actually be happening.

[Lou]

did you guys read the article? 

 

"While experts said the directive is significant, privately run federal prisons house only a fraction of the overall population of inmates. The vast majority of the incarcerated in America are housed in state prisons — rather than federal ones — and Yates’ memo does not apply to any of those, even the ones that are privately run. Nor does it apply to Immigration and Customs Enforcement and U.S. Marshals Service detainees, who are technically in the federal system but not under the purview of the federal Bureau of Prisons.

The directive is instead limited to the 13 privately run facilities, housing a little more than 22,000 inmates, in the federal Bureau of Prisons system. "

 

 

 

[Adam]

Guess they couldn't come up with enough grease for the palms

[Lou]

22,000 inmates across the country? 

That's like solving our BP problem by waiving Al Albuquerque

[Make Angels Great Again]

It's a good start though and sets a precedent.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Hopefully states will begin to see the folly of entrusting incarceration to companies with a profit motive. Nevada had a very negative experience with privatization, and there isn't much of an appetite for it here.

[Rico]

Private prison stocks tanked.