All time Angels lineup

[Lou E Ville]

Obvious starters....

CF  Mike Trout
RF  Vlad Guerrero
LF  Garret Anderson
DH  Don Baylor
 

Not so obvious....

1B  Pujols? Carew?
2B  Grich? Kennedy?
SS  ????
3B  DeCinces? Glaus?

 

 

 

 

[Oz27]

Is GA an obvious starter? If we're not going by outfield position and just sticking three outfielders in, Edmonds, Salmon and Hunter were all pretty damn good.

I think it has to be Glaus at 3B too.

[Dick B Back]

Based on career numbers as an Angel or best year as an Angel?

[AngelsLakersFan]

Not sure how GA would make the squad. Edmonds or Salmon could slide over, Hunter maybe as well. GA does get points for longevity, though.

How is Grich not the de facto second basemen? 

Hopefully in four or five years we can have this same topic with SS Simmons ??? 

[nikkachez]

Fregosi's gotta be the shortstop 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Downing and edmonds would be starters i think. Grich at 2B. Decinces might get the nod over glaus at 3B

Off the top of my head for pitchers, ryan finley and weaver.

[IEAngelsfan]

1 hour ago, nikkachez said:

Fregosi's gotta be the shortstop 

Totally agree.

[tdawg87]

Shawn Wooten at every position.

[nikkachez]

I think you gotta go Salmon, Trout, Guerrero in the outfield. Downing DH'ing. Carew, Grich, Fregosi, Glaus, and Boone in the infield. 

[AngelsLakersFan]

2 hours ago, ten ocho recon scout said:

Downing and edmonds would be starters i think. Grich at 2B. Decinces might get the nod over glaus at 3B

Off the top of my head for pitchers, ryan finley and weaver.

Can't believe I forgot Downing and Fregosi. Doh!

I think Salmon has to get the nod over Edmonds because I don't think you can count what Edmonds did in St. Louis. Of course we haven't exactly defined rules here. Guerrero would have to be in RF.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

No Jeff Mathis? How soon they forget.

[vladdy#27]

CF Mike Trout (2013) .323/.432/.557 27 HR 33 SB 10.5 WAR

LF Darin Erstad (2000) .355/.409/.541 25 HR 28 SB 8.7 WAR

DH Tim Salmon (1995) .330/.429/.594 34 HR 5.8 WAR

3B Troy Glaus (2000) .284/.404/.604 47 HR 8.2 WAR

RF Vladimir Guerrero (2004) .327/.391/.598 39 HR 15 SB 5.9 WAR

2B Bobby Grich (1979) .294/.365/.537 30 HR 5.6 WAR

C Brian Downing (1982) .281/.368/.482 28 HR 5.4 WAR

1B Rod Carew (1982) .319/.396/.403 4.3 WAR

SS Jim Fregosi (1964) .277/.369/.463 18 HR 7.0 WAR

[Erstad Grit]

I wouldn't put Baylor over Davis without a conversation. 

Figgins and Glaus is a difficult conversation since they are such different type of players. 

[Skankhunt42]

you forgot DH-Robb Quinlan 

[Docwaukee]

1 hour ago, vladdy#27 said:

CF Mike Trout (2013) .323/.432/.557 27 HR 33 SB 10.5 WAR

LF Darin Erstad (2000) .355/.409/.541 25 HR 28 SB 8.7 WAR

DH Tim Salmon (1995) .330/.429/.594 34 HR 5.8 WAR

3B Troy Glaus (2000) .284/.404/.604 47 HR 8.2 WAR

RF Vladimir Guerrero (2004) .327/.391/.598 39 HR 15 SB 5.9 WAR

2B Bobby Grich (1979) .294/.365/.537 30 HR 5.6 WAR

C Brian Downing (1982) .281/.368/.482 28 HR 5.4 WAR

1B Rod Carew (1982) .319/.396/.403 4.3 WAR

SS Jim Fregosi (1964) .277/.369/.463 18 HR 7.0 WAR

That's the best lineup if you can't use the same player more than once.  Otherwise, Trout would own all 3 OF spots or if you have to have the guy playing the position they played that season.  If not, I might swap out Figgies' 2009 for Grich and put Chone at 2b.  Or you could put Glaus 2000 at DH and Figgy or DeCinces 1982 at 3b.  If the lineup stays as above, I'd have the following bench:

Figgy 2009 - 6.5 WAR 

Howie 2011 - 5.3 WAR

Edmonds 1995 - 5.3 WAR

Parish 1990 - 4.6 WAR

Ocab 2007 - 4.8 WAR

My rotation would be 

Ryan 1973 - 2.87 era, 383k

Chance 1964 - 1.65 era

Tanana 1976 - 2.43 era,  

Finley 1990 - 2.40 era

Weaver 2011 - 2.41 era

Pen

Krod 2004 - 1.82 era 13.18 k/9

Harvey 1991 - 1.60 era 

Percy 1995 - 1.95 era

Donnelley 2003 - 1.58 era

Shields 2005 - 2.75 era 

Bob Lee 1964 - 1.51 era in 137 ip with 111k

 

 

 

[ten ocho recon scout]

Sosh at manager obviously

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(Just to get this thread going)

[ten ocho recon scout]

7 hours ago, elixir said:

Ryan

Finley

Weaver

Chance

Witt

Chance i dunno...yeah, cy young, but off the top of my head, never really a dominant year after. Then wed have to argue for colon.

And as much as i like witt, id probably put lackey over both...chance was a cy young, but before my time so i cant gauge. But again, unless i remember wrong, i dont know he ever repeated that success. Lackey was the frontman of a very good rotation here for a long time.

[ten ocho recon scout]

6 hours ago, vladdy#27 said:

CF Mike Trout (2013) .323/.432/.557 27 HR 33 SB 10.5 WAR

LF Darin Erstad (2000) .355/.409/.541 25 HR 28 SB 8.7 WAR

DH Tim Salmon (1995) .330/.429/.594 34 HR 5.8 WAR

3B Troy Glaus (2000) .284/.404/.604 47 HR 8.2 WAR

RF Vladimir Guerrero (2004) .327/.391/.598 39 HR 15 SB 5.9 WAR

2B Bobby Grich (1979) .294/.365/.537 30 HR 5.6 WAR

C Brian Downing (1982) .281/.368/.482 28 HR 5.4 WAR

1B Rod Carew (1982) .319/.396/.403 4.3 WAR

SS Jim Fregosi (1964) .277/.369/.463 18 HR 7.0 WAR

Its crazy to look at erstads 2000 and see that its below 9 WAR...salmon and vlads years listed having a 5 war is crazy too...but i would think erstads 2000 would be way, way higher. Insane offense, and he was a beast on defense.  Juiced era skews it

[Lou E Ville]

6 hours ago, vladdy#27 said:

CF Mike Trout (2013) .323/.432/.557 27 HR 33 SB 10.5 WAR

LF Darin Erstad (2000) .355/.409/.541 25 HR 28 SB 8.7 WAR

DH Tim Salmon (1995) .330/.429/.594 34 HR 5.8 WAR

3B Troy Glaus (2000) .284/.404/.604 47 HR 8.2 WAR

RF Vladimir Guerrero (2004) .327/.391/.598 39 HR 15 SB 5.9 WAR

2B Bobby Grich (1979) .294/.365/.537 30 HR 5.6 WAR

C Brian Downing (1982) .281/.368/.482 28 HR 5.4 WAR

1B Rod Carew (1982) .319/.396/.403 4.3 WAR

SS Jim Fregosi (1964) .277/.369/.463 18 HR 7.0 WAR

Downing played LF in 1982. I loved that team. I updated their stats every time I got a boxscore (no internet back then).

[Lou E Ville]

I put Garret in left because he played that position and isn't he the all-time leader in half our offensive categories? Not to mention his three-run double in Game Seven.

I knew Fregosi would be in there, just didn't know what position he played (started following the team in 78). I like Carew at first and Grich at second. DeCinces was a beast in 82 but so was Glaus in a couple seasons.

Salmon was my all-time favorite Angel until Trout came along. I wanted to put him in the outfield but Vlad was better and honestly, so was Garret, probably. Garret was the silent assassin.

 

 

[Slegnaac]

Andy Messersmith - 1971 2.99 20 -13  14CG

 

[nando714]

Where's Jeff Davannon and Todd Greene?

[Angels#1Fan]

15 hours ago, nikkachez said:

Fregosi's gotta be the shortstop 

Absolutely..it's not even close.

[Chuck]

I would take the 2012 Pujols or 2014 over Rod Carew. 

Also,  I would also rather have Wally Joyner's 1987 season over any of Carew's here. 

[nate]

No love for Chili Davis?

Also in the OF you have Vlad and Trout but that third spot between Salmon, GA, Hunter and Fred Lynn.  Probably others I am missing too.