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If Skaggs is indeed injured is anyone surprised?

You'd probably have to package Valbueno with Kinsler to land DeGrom. lol

Don't hurt yourself. Remember to see a doctor if you have an erection that last for more than 4 hours.

I'm sure we'd get a BIG haul for Kinsler in a trade. {rolleyes:]

I honestly don't like being negative, but I think I'd like to nominate this thread for the dumbest of the year.

Gary Gaetti?

Trout is fat and in decline.

This^^ I keep trying to tell everyone that there's no help coming.

In the last 15 years how many true number one starters have come out of the Angels minor league system?

"One in the hand is worth two in the bush".

If it wasn't for bad luck....

One should never hate, however I had an intense dislike for Josh Hamilton.

Dang.

Possible comeback?

It's very common in todays modern game for the starters to only go around 100 pitches. And there is a reason most managers follow this practice these days. Can anyone imagine the outcry if Scioscia ( or any other manager) left a few guys in for over 100 pitches a couple of times and one of them gets hurt? You'd never here the end of it on this board from the vocal Scioscia haters who are actually in the minority here. Barria was obviously done for the night but the haters just have to place the blame at Scioscia's feet.

I'm kinda of with you about the living and dying part. I'm a geezer so I've been through a lot of Angels seasons also. One thing that does gripe me though is that in recent years when we have been getting decimated with serious injuries and we do little or nothing about it. I think most would agree that before this season started it was obvious that there were a lot of question marks with our entire pitching staff. Too many starters were coming off of surgery coupled with a bullpen that was suspect and we didn't do a thing to bolster a staff that was damaged. Very disappointing.

@Chuckster70Thanks Chuck.

Is there a way to listen to the press conference?

Just checked in. Jesus..we're getting pounded already.

I agree with just about every thing you said but we just can't be afraid to make some kind of move, otherwise we just stay where we are and more time just passes with a marginally talented and injury prone starting rotation and bullpen. I wish I knew the answer also because the frustration level isn't getting any better at this point. I'm afraid the season is spiraling towards another mediocre finish that will leave the Angels in the middle of the pack without any good draft picks that can help in the future. BTW..I wouldn't be interested in any high priced rentals either. That usually winds up being a waste.

Strad, over the course of a couple of years we have lost the equivalent of an entire starting rotation that was already devoid of a true # 1. We haven't had a true number one starter since Weavers last good season several years ago. Richards was supposed to be that guy but it hasn't worked out. It's no ones fault for some of the injuries to our rotation but there comes a point that in order for the franchise to move forward a move needs to happen. It's been rumored that the Mets are shopping DeGrom and Snydergaard..will the Angels make any effort to land one of these guys? Will we "stand pat" a while longer? For those that say we can't weaken the minor leagues by trading any more talent, I say WHAT TALENT? Are we afraid to give up some minor leaguers for a proven ML starter? I realize the problems with our entire pitching staff can't be addressed all at once but DO SOMETHING. We are treading water with people that can't go more than 5 innings due to either pitch counts that are a result of injuries or pitchers that just plain and simple aren't good enough. Our bullpen is killing us in the late innings. This just can't continue to go on as is.

This We've known this for quite a while and done virtually nothing to address it.

Strad, when our pitchers started dropping like flies a couple of years ago we got virtually nothing in the way of replacements or help. Shoemaker went down twice..who did we get? Heaney went down..who did we get? Trop went down..who did we get? Skaggs went down..who did we get? Street went down and was replaced by Bedrock and then he went down and was replaced by Bud Norris a blowout patch that actually pitched ok for a short time and when he became ineffective there was nothing! Even the most casual fan knew that our bullpen was suspect during the off season, so what did the organization do to address this glaring problem? Answer..nothing. The Angels did just what they've been doing..they stood pat with a crappy bullpen that is burying us with many late inning blown games so far! Richards went down a couple of times, who did the front office go out and get to take his place? Ohtani went down what has the front office done to address this? Answer, the same thing they've been doing for several years when players go down..nothing! Etc Etc Etc. Chone Figgins left..who replaced him at third base? Answer..several years have passed and we're still waiting for a third baseman. Howie Kendrick was traded for Heaney who did we get to play second base? Answer no one! We've tried to replace injured players or players that left with minor leaguers that were a part of one of the worst systems in the league at the time that were of little or no help at all. During the off season the starting rotation had many question marks because of so many players returning from TJ surgery..what help did we get? Answer none the Angels stood pat with an injury plagued starting rotation. And on and on it goes. OK, you're right we did sign Upton.

Sorry Lou but the track record says there's no help on the way. The last several years we've watched as our pitching staff was decimated and all we got was Ricky Nolasco. The writing is on the wall. Hope I'm wrong but I think all we can hope for is another blowout patch.

I'm not. It's been the Angels MO for several years..there's no help coming guys.