Angels#1Fan

I just can't imagine Albert walking away from $100 million..hell, I can't imagine anyone doing that. As far as Trout goes, no one here knows what he is going to do, but I will say this. The longer the Angels wait to extend him the more likely he is to leave and trading him isn't an option for several reasons. One of the main reasons for it being difficult to trade him is that any team trading for him must sign him or take the chance of giving up a lot for just a rental season. Second reason is that Trout has a no trade which has it's biggest impact if he intends to try the fa water. If the Angels really want to keep Trout it's my opinion that they need to extend him sooner rather than later. The real question regarding Trout and free agency is whether or not he wants to stay in Anaheim and the truth is no one but him knows the answer to that question.

Mike Trout is the greatest WAR player of all time.

It's all about WAR and nothing else all the time. Trout is a great player.

Trading Trout would be worse than when Bavasi let Ryan go!

Yeah if Scioscia is let go then some of these guys will just find a new guy to blame. I'm not a Scioscia nutswinger but I'd laugh if he were given an extension.

It's already negative enough here.

Well the shitty bullpen turned another Angel win into a loss..mother*%#@.

Shades of the "Arson Squad".

The players eventually have to be able to do their job and that isn't on the manager when they can't.

It has to do with the collective pieces of crap we have to march out there every night.

To name a few. lol But seriously they f'n stink!

Thank you. lol

Our bp is f'n TERRIBLE!

IMHO one of the reasons Trout has so few rbi is because he's batting second most of the time..the dude needs to bat third. It might only make a minor difference with this current team but that's my take.

Winning streak followed by losing streak..where have I seen this movie before?

If you think Trout is better than Ruth at this point in his career then there really is nothing to discuss! BTW..I didn't make any claims of any kind regarding the overall quality of baseball when comparing eras. The comparison was between Ruth and Trout and how WAR either does or doesn't do an accurate job of comparing the two!

My "willful obtuseness" tells me at the ML level hitters can hit the fastball. More minor leaguers have failed at the big league level because they couldn't hit the curve..not the fastball. If you can't even concede the vagaries of the art of pitching then there isn't much to discuss either but you can find solace in believing that the fastball is everything. BTW..this has what to do with WAR?

So you assume that the speed a pitch is thrown is the yard stick for whether a pitcher is hittable or not? It doesn't take much "mental gymnastics" to believe that deception is a key factor when discussing how effective a pitcher might be.

All the things you mention might make a player a better athlete but it doesn't necessarily make them a better ball player. All the analytics in the world won't make someone throw a better curve or give a pitcher the control of say a Greg Maddux..won't make your hand/eye any better either. Players today are in better shape.

No..everything isn't black or white. Because I don't think WAR is accurate doesn't mean that it doesn't have some measure of validity.

Uh, you don't know that for a fact because there were no radar guns in Ruth's era!

Maybe he was better than the stat says? BTW..I don't necessarily think the stat is bad (I in fact didn't say that either). I said imo it wasn't accurate. BTW..I based my argument about the accuracy of WAR on Ruth having a far bigger season in 23 than Trout this year!

That's only your opinion that players are better today..maybe they are and maybe they aren't. If for example you are in the crowd that believes pitchers only threw 82 mph 100 years ago then I can see how you arrived at your opinion.

How could you know otherwise? lol

If WAR was really accurate Ruth's numbers would be even higher. Ruth won 94 games and lost only 46 as a pitcher with a era of 2.28..how many games has Trout won? If I was starting a team and I had a choice of Ruth or Trout being my first player I'd choose Ruth every time. When Trout's career is over perhaps he'll equal Ruth and other HOF players but that hasn't been written yet.