Full-Scale War Looms in Donbass....

[HaloFan85]

.... AKA eastern Ukraine.

 

This civil war has continued on for months now, even though the mainstream media would have everyone believe the peace deals (Minsk I & II agreements) have been upheld for the most part with the occasional flare-up here and there.  The fact of the matter is Kiev has never stopped attacking the people in Donbass and will not stop until they completely destroy them.  They've said this publicly on numerous occasions and their actions have made this quite clear.  They've also expressed their desire to invade Crimea on several occasions as well.

 

Kiev has violated every peace deal and ceasefire put in place and have committed countless war crimes in the process.  They've been shelling cities indiscriminately on an almost nightly basis, with most of their focus being on the city of Donetsk.  Women, children, elderly, journalists.... it doesn't matter.  They've been targeting everyone.  About a month ago, it was reported that Kiev had amassed up to 70,000 troops along the contact line while holding onto to all their heavy artillery (another violation) even though the rebel forces had not only pulled back from the line, but had also withdrawn the weapons and artillery required on their end of the deal.  Now they're on the brink of full-scale war, once again.  Those Nazi fascist bastards (we've trained and supplied with lethal weapons) are just itching to destroy Donbass, Gaza style.  Prelude to WW3?

 

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/08/13/full-scale-war-looms-in-donbass/

 

[TobiasFunke]

Stopped reading at Mainstream Media

[mp170.6]

Stopped reading at Mainstream Media

 

Why?  You think the mainstream media is unbiased?

[Blarg]

Hopefully the Ukrainian forces kicks the Russians off their native soil and sends all of the "rebels" back to Moscow where they came from. They also need to reclaim Crimea, it is clearly Ukrainian soil invaded by the Russians illegally.

[gotbeer]

Didn't the Ukranians overthrow the president/country in the first place?

[arch stanton]

Hard to pick a side in this one.

[Lhalo]

Hopefully the Ukrainian forces kicks the Russians off their native soil and sends all of the "rebels" back to Moscow where they came from. They also need to reclaim Crimea, it is clearly Ukrainian soil invaded by the Russians illegally.

lol

[Blarg]

Hard to pick a side in this one.

 

Not really, one side is run by Putin. **** them.

[HaloFan85]

After reading some of the comments here, all I can say is Kudos to CNN, FOX, and the rest of the tribe for a job very well done.

[HaloFan85]

Not really, one side is run by Putin. **** them.

You must have top level security clearance at that Pentagon because the government has yet to provide any evidence supporting such claims.

[HaloFan85]

Hopefully the Ukrainian forces kicks the Russians off their native soil and sends all of the "rebels" back to Moscow where they came from. They also need to reclaim Crimea, it is clearly Ukrainian soil invaded by the Russians illegally.

Really?  Nevermind the fact Crimea had autonomy and right to self determination in which the people voted well over 90% via referendum to 'rejoin' Russia?  And back to Moscow where they came from?  That's equivalent to telling all blacks to go back to Africa where they came from.

[HaloFan85]

Didn't the Ukranians overthrow the president/country in the first place?

Yanukovich was the democratically elected president of Ukraine.  It wasn't until he decided to delay signing a deal with the European Union that all hell broke loose.  The EU demanded he cut off all economic ties with Russia and he knew that would devastate their economy and country.  He said he needed more time to weigh his options and that's when the Soros/NED funded Euromaidan riots started.  These people started wreaking havoc all over Kiev with violence including the use of Molotovs that literally burned several police officers alive.  Then a group of unknown snipers (many have said possibly Blackwater nka Academi mercs) started taking people out on BOTH sides of the riots and that's pretty much when the president was forced to flea for his life into Crimea.  I believe the snipers killed up to a dozen police officers and dozens more of the Euromaidan rioters.

 

The current "president" is another puppet/oligarch for the US that only cares about money, and the people living in Donbass have refused to recognize him as the legitimate president.  When Poroshenko took power, his first order of business was to strip all ethnic Russians living in Donbass of their rights, including speaking the Russian language.  That's when the people decided to declare their own independence via referendum and created their own Republics in Donbass.  That's when Poroshenko decided to begin attacking and bombing them unprovoked.

[acro2008]

Yanukovich was the democratically elected president of Ukraine.  It wasn't until he decided to delay signing a deal with the European Union that all hell broke loose.  The EU demanded he cut off all economic ties with Russia and he knew that would devastate their economy and country.  He said he needed more time to weigh his options and that's when the Soros/NED funded Euromaidan riots started.  These people started wreaking havoc all over Kiev with violence including the use of Molotovs that literally burned several police officers alive.  Then a group of unknown snipers (many have said possibly Blackwater nka Academi mercs) started taking people out on BOTH sides of the riots and that's pretty much when the president was forced to flea for his life into Crimea.  I believe the snipers killed up to a dozen police officers and dozens more of the Euromaidan rioters.

 

The current "president" is another puppet/oligarch for the US that only cares about money, and the people living in Donbass have refused to recognize him as the legitimate president.  When Poroshenko took power, his first order of business was to strip all ethnic Russians living in Donbass of their rights, including speaking the Russian language.  That's when the people decided to declare their own independence via referendum and created their own Republics in Donbass.  That's when Poroshenko decided to begin attacking and bombing them unprovoked.

 

THIS!

[Jay]

You must have top level security clearance at that Pentagon because the government has yet to provide any evidence supporting such claims.

 

I'll bet Hillary's IT department knows about it.

[Jason]

I really dislike reading Russian names.

[gotbeer]

I really dislike reading Russian names.

 

Sergei Fedorov

Sergei Samsonov

Pavel Bure

Valeri Bure

Alexander Ovechkin

Sergei Gonchar

Vladamir Guerrero

[Lhalo]

Yanukovich was the democratically elected president of Ukraine.  It wasn't until he decided to delay signing a deal with the European Union that all hell broke loose.  The EU demanded he cut off all economic ties with Russia and he knew that would devastate their economy and country.  He said he needed more time to weigh his options and that's when the Soros/NED funded Euromaidan riots started.  These people started wreaking havoc all over Kiev with violence including the use of Molotovs that literally burned several police officers alive.  Then a group of unknown snipers (many have said possibly Blackwater nka Academi mercs) started taking people out on BOTH sides of the riots and that's pretty much when the president was forced to flea for his life into Crimea.  I believe the snipers killed up to a dozen police officers and dozens more of the Euromaidan rioters.

 

The current "president" is another puppet/oligarch for the US that only cares about money, and the people living in Donbass have refused to recognize him as the legitimate president.  When Poroshenko took power, his first order of business was to strip all ethnic Russians living in Donbass of their rights, including speaking the Russian language.  That's when the people decided to declare their own independence via referendum and created their own Republics in Donbass.  That's when Poroshenko decided to begin attacking and bombing them unprovoked.

 

This is quite a good summary of the situation. All that's missing is Victoria Nuland handing out cookies.

[HaloFan85]

I'll bet Hillary's IT department knows about it.

All accusations from the US have been unsubstantiated and baseless, yet they, and the western media continue to present them as fact.

 

The media in this country has lost all credibility in my eyes.

[HaloFan85]

This is quite a good summary of the situation. All that's missing is Victoria Nuland handing out cookies.

I thought about mentioning her but didn't want to get too much into it.  There's also her F**K the EU phone call that was recorded a few months BEFORE Euromaidan even started in which her and Geoffrey Pyatt are discussing and planning who they want to take over the Ukrainian government.  There's also the fact that her husband is Robert Kagan who is a PNAC co-founder!!

[Chris]

were the Russians ever able to figure out who shot down that civilian passenger plane?

[UndertheHalo]

Sergei Fedorov

Sergei Samsonov

Pavel Bure

Valeri Bure

Alexander Ovechkin

Sergei Gonchar

Vladamir Guerrero

Haha, those all hockey players...except for Vladdy.

[UndertheHalo]

were the Russians ever able to figure out who shot down that civilian passenger plane?

Yea, ethnic Russian rebels who have no idea how to operate the equipment that Russia dumped on them.

Edited August 15, 2015 by UndertheHalo

[Blarg]

Undethehalo may appreciate this analogy of the overthrow of Crimea.

 

The Israelis are constantly being criticized for settling Palestinian territories with squatters that move in and then take over areas. The Palestinians are constantly at war with these settlements as encroaching on their land.

 

Russia started a mass immigration into Crimea back when the wall came down. They continued until the Russian population out numbered the Crimean/Ukrainian population then basically took the country through election for Russia.  

 

The jackasses say it was by a popular vote and not an overthrow of a democratic government by a planned action by the Kremlin. Now the Ukraine mainland is suffering from the same problem, too many Russians that immigrated and now are tying to return the Ukraine to Soviet control. Yes, the Western Bloc nations are saying **** You Putin, get your hands off the Ukraine. They are Island hopping like the US did to win WWII. Not with aircraft, ships, tanks and an army but by infiltration of Russian citizens until they can grab political control.

 

Next step, Poland.

[Tank]

All accusations from the US have been unsubstantiated and baseless, yet they, and the western media continue to present them as fact.

 

The media in this country has lost all credibility in my eyes.

The media still had some credibility left to lose? Who knew!

[hen3ry]

Vladimir Guerrero is the only Russian I can stand, personally.

 

Guerrero.  That's a good, noble Russian name for sure.