Founding Fathers: We are not a Christian Nation

[Rico]

Obese and obscene.  

God bless porn!

[Blarg]

I think, over the past 50 years, the U S has strived to become a Godless nation and has been pretty successful at it.

[juansavage1]

A majority of the founders were deists? Why dont we go through the list? How many of the signers of the declaration were deists?

[TobiasFunke]

I don't know Juan but I'm pretty sure you have Juan Stats for it

[mtangelsfan]

IMO, the mistake that many Christians make is that they take many of the promises that God made to Israel and try to transfer that to a country except those promises should be transferred to the Church collective.

 

We Christians want things to run from the top down instead of the way it should run.  Change has to happen individually, locally and then can move on.  However many Christians want the government to do their work for them.  Many times they will want the local church to make the changes they want instead of themselves.  Institutes of man, whether they be good, bad, or like most both can never be counted on to make Christian change, nor should they be.

 

God can do what He wants, but to count on the U.S. being a Christian nation again is a waste of time, energy and money.

 

 

[Adam]

You mean Rick Santorum ISN'T the answer?

[mtangelsfan]

I guess that depends on what the question is:

 

If the question is "who will be a president to save the U.S. from its sinful way?", then nope.

 

But if the question is "who has no chance of winning the Republican primary", then yes.

[Glen]

I guess that depends on what the question is:

 

If the question is "who will be a president to save the U.S. from its sinful way?", then nope.

 

But if the question is "who has no chance of winning the Republican primary", then yes.

 

 

Is it the President's job to save the US from sinful ways?  Not asking to be an asshole but I'm curious if you actually feel that way.  

[mtangelsfan]

Is it the President's job to save the US from sinful ways?  Not asking to be an asshole but I'm curious if you actually feel that way.  

 

If you read my post before that one you would know the answer clearly.

 

I gave a sarcastic repsonse to a sarcastic question.

[juansavage1]

By the way, Deism is the minimum you need for natural law,as I've mentioned before. They knew it didn't make sense for people to have rights and for some things to be good and others bad without a designed world. Kant was a deist. Thomas Paine was a deist,and said that atheism was dumb.

But, it would be interesting to see what people mean by "most founding fathers."

[Blarg]

Nice that Juan is continuing an argument only he is involved in

[juansavage1]

Nice that Juan is continuing an argument only he is involved in

I was replying to the assertion that most founding fathers were deists. I would like to know what that means.

[TobiasFunke]

You should ask yourself

[Blarg]

He already answered that.

 

A couple of times.

 

Without being asked.

[Tank]

LOL