Time to make a trade

[Cdaniel]

CJ Wilson as well

[Broad Street]

CJ Wilson as well

CJ has been our second best pitcher. Unless you're super confident someone can replace him, and Shoe/Weaver turn it around, you don't move Wilson.

[Jason]

CJ has been our second best pitcher. Unless you're super confident someone can replace him, and Shoe/Weaver turn it around, you don't move Wilson.

For potential starters down the road, trade him

[AngelsFaninGA]

CJ has been our second best pitcher. Unless you're super confident someone can replace him, and Shoe/Weaver turn it around, you don't move Wilson.

 

If you're selling CJ is probably the first guy you sell. He's 34 so he's not really part of our long-term plans (I would assume we don't resign him after his contract ends), he has a high salary, and he's pitching well so he actually has some trade value.

[Broad Street]

If you're selling CJ is probably the first guy you sell. He's 34 so he's not really part of our long-term plans (I would assume we don't resign him after his contract ends), he has a high salary, and he's pitching well so he actually has some trade value.

Trying to find a potential trade partner who would want Wilson and give us something of worth in return could prove difficult. Does Wilson have a no trade clause?

[Angelsjunky]

Here's the problem: Due to the parity in MLB, it is a seller's market - meaning, there aren't a lot of teams that are ready to cash in their chips for the year (yet), so any decent trade chip will be overvalued on the market. Unless Dipoto is willing to give up talented young pitching, which I don't think he is, the Angels simply don't have a lot to work with.

 

Probably the only likely scenario is that the Angels do a swap like Wilson for Ethier, or possibly helping a team get rid of payroll. But that becomes a problem. Do we really want a Hanley Ramirez or Pablo Sandoval? Or do we want to sell the farm on Justin Upton, who will be a free agent anyway? Or trade away a good pitching prospect for a Josh Reddick? I think not.

 

Again, we MIGHT see the Angels trade Wilson for someone like Ethier, but that's about it.

[tomsred]

I like how you used last 30 days just so you could sneak in the one good week Joyce had at the end of May. In June, he's batting .191 with a .607 OPS, and a whopping 1 RBI.

 

I'm not saying that he shouldn't be traded, just that there are about six players who are roughly equally bad.  I guess my point is that there are too many holes to fill right now, and the supporting minor league structure has too few ready reserves of any value.

 

By the way though, Joyce in the last 7 days, .308 average / .438 OBP / .899 OPS, but a small sample size.  I guess it's all what stats you want to look at.

Edited June 21, 2015 by tomsred

[Broad Street]

Even then, I'm not sure we trade Wilson. Yeah, he had a horrid year last year, but for the majority of his contract, he's been a good pitcher for us. Are you going to plug in Heaney or Tropeano and hope they can match his production? Especially when Shoe/Weaver need replacements probably? I'm not quite ready to give up on those two, but you have to consider the possibility of having to replace them.

[Tank]

we're not allow to make suggestions on how to improve the team after a win.

It's in the AW charter.

[Tank]

Wow, the negative is unusually strong in this thread.

Edited June 21, 2015 by Tank

[Vegas Halo Fan]

It's pretty hard to pinpoint the hole to plug right now. We can get ourselves in big trouble in the longer haul if we aren't smart about the process of improvement.

 

This is the major problem with rushing into a deal just to be doing something. It has to be the right deal. We are early in the process of rebuilding what was a dreadful farm system, and we don't want to trade the future for the past.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Does Wilson have a no trade clause?

 

According to this article, he had a no-trade through the 2013 season.

 

Players with full no-trade clauses are Pujols and Weaver.

[Broad Street]

Not that either of those guys actually needed a no trade clause.

[nando714]

4.5 out of the divison

2.5 out of WC

Trade everyone

I for 1 though is tired of this inconsistent offense

[stevestevens]

Pssst... Orem, not Salt Lake.. But I understand your mistake -- all those Mormon's look a like.

Well it's because we have horns on our head

[Guest]

I'm sure Dipoto isn't resting on his laurels like some of you are suggesting—he's undoubtedly well aware of the team's need for a left fielder who can hit.

This team is good despite the hyperbole in this thread, but they aren't good enough at present. another bat is sorely needed to compete with the other top teams in the AL.

Edited June 21, 2015 by failos

[Inside Pitch]

Well it's because we have horns on our head

 

And the hooves....   

[Mark68]

When everyone but the Brewers, Phillies, and Rockies is still in the race (due to the two wild cards in each league), it makes it very difficult to consummate a trade in June. A lot of teams are going to want to wait it out as long as possible to determine if they're buying or selling.

 

Making a trade just to make a trade is what got us Vernon Wells.

Edited June 21, 2015 by Mark68

[tomsred]

I don't want to see this organization make a trade with anyone.  Let's just be happy, and analyze the crap out of the personnel we currently have.  Then we won't have to learn how to spell any new names.

 

Edited June 21, 2015 by tomsred

[nate]

This is a .500 team and it would take a lot more than one trade to make them a 90 win team.

[tomsred]

This is a .500 team and it would take a lot more than one trade to make them a 90 win team.

 

This ^^^, and trades are not necessarily additive.  First you subtract a player(s), then you add a player(s), which means sometimes the result is positive, and sometimes the result is negative.  If you believe everything you read here, it almost always negative.

 

Edited June 21, 2015 by tomsred

[nate]

 

 

I just watched him in Star Wars episode 6.

[Broad Street]

This is a .500 team and it would take a lot more than one trade to make them a 90 win team.

I don't think this is only a .500 team. There's not much difference between last years team and this year's team.

[Hollyw00d]

This team is too bereft of talent to take the "win now" approach. We've done that for the past five seasons and its resulted in one playoff appearance and zero playoff wins.

Sit on your hands and let the youth develop more and see what you have. Dont start giving away what little minor league talent there is to improve a mediocre team. Let all the dead weight come off the books and see if you can sign some free agents that will actually produce, no more big splashes.

The Yankees of the west plan has failed miserably, its time to take a better approach

[Guest]

This is a .500 team and it would take a lot more than one trade to make them a 90 win team.

I bet you'd still complain about something even if they did win 90 games. You never say anything remotely positive about the Angels.