Serial - Anybody else listening? (SPOILERS)

[yk9001]

This Serial podcast has blown up. I am reading about it everywhere now.

[Schildog]

so i'm hooked.

[Brandon]

This Serial podcast has blown up. I am reading about it everywhere now.

 

 

Yeah, was reading something like 5m downloads and gets about 1.5m listeners an episode. More than some tv shows. I think I also saw it's the number one thing downloaded on iTunes.

[Adam]

Imagine if those commie lib broads liked money. They could monetize the shit out of this thing

Edited November 24, 2014 by Adam

[yk9001]

The only sponsor is what sounds like some vietnamese email service (Mail-cheemp)

[Schildog]

i donated $5 to the cause. 

[yk9001]

i donated $5 to the cause. 

 

 

haha - I did 10 this morning.  what the heck - I've gotten what, 8 or 9 hours entertainment?

[Schildog]

i loved the newest podcast. it's given me the most doubt as to adnan's guilt. 

[Brandon]

Some light reading.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/30/magazine/sarah-koenig-cant-promise-a-perfect-ending-to-serial.html?ribbon-ad-idx=6&rref=magazine&module=Ribbon&version=origin&region=Header&action=click&contentCollection=Magazine&pgtype=article&_r=0

 

 

http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-adnan-syed-serial-20141120-story.html

[RallyMo]

I started on this about a month ago and just caught up.

I'm inclined to think he's guilty on the basis of the show, but I don't understand how that evidence resulted in a conviction.

[Adam]

Agreed Rally

[Schildog]

The Nisha phone call is impossible to circumvent. But yeah I don't know how it's beyond a reasonable doubt.

[Taylor]

This stuff is fascinating. I love how it plays out like a novel, completely with multi-dimensional characters, mixed motives, and skeletons in the closet for almost everyone involved. Jay is such an interesting character. Thuggish black dude who's actually kind of a softie and listens to Rage Against the Machine. The fact that he was a perpetual liar about useless stuff explains why his account of the situation had so many inconsistencies (i.e. Best Buy, the pay phone, smoking weed on those cliffs).

 

I loved the conversation Sarah played at the end of a recent episode, from one of Adnan and Jay's girl friends, where she was like, "What the @#$!? What the... how could it... I don't... what the @#@%!???!"

 

You have to wonder what the "conclusion" is going to be. If it turns out that Adnan did do it, it seems like kind of a waste of a story. If it's still a complete mystery in the end, without any of the inconsistencies explained, that would also seem like a waste.

[Schildog]

There's not going to be a resolution. I'm good with that because it's so engrossing. I just love the way she tells the story.

[Brandon]

Yeah, I'm not anticipating some revelation. At the end of the day it's someone asking really good questions and challenging what happened in court. I actually think it will be a boring ending where she kind of challenges the audience to make their own conclusion of what happened based on what she provided. Although, that article I posted shows another appeals process being opened up because of her work.

[red321]

We went through the all episodes over the last few days. Completely hooked...and even started listening to podcasts about the podcast (Slate has one).

 

I know some people didn't like the innocence project episode...but I took two things out of that episode...1) validation from an expert source that the case was as thin as it was playing out in my mind and most importantly...sometimes innocent people are their own worst advocate...they can't explain away things that to them might have been innocuous or didn't happen. If he didn't make the Nisha phone call...how can he explain it? And that Nisha call has some holes in it, right? Why is she talking about a video store when Jay didn't work at the video store yet? Yet, it seems unlikely Jay called her and talked to her for 2 minutes if he didn't know her beforehand. So, that would put Anan with the phone.

 

I still don't know what to make about it overall...Jay's story is full of holes, he's more deeply involved in what happens then he lets on. At the moment I'm leaning towards Anan probably had something to do with it, in conjunction with Jay, but not a long the timelines the prosecution laid out. There is little to no chance that could have been done in 21 some odd minutes in the middle of the day in a best buy parking lot.

 

I will say that, at least how it is presented in the podcast, his lawyer sucked major ass...how in the world could she not have put on a credible defense and put reasonable doubt in the jury's mind.

 

Fascinating stuff. I might go back and listen to them again waiting for next Thursday.

Edited November 30, 2014 by red321

[yk9001]

Spoilers (edited thread title)?  I'd love to have a spoiler in this case.  Unfortunately, I don't think its going to happen.

[red321]

YK, I just added it in case anyone who just started listening to the podcast was stupid enough to open the thread. Common Courtesy and all.

[Adam]

I'm not a super fan of the Slate podcast

[Schildog]

on the second listen... i can't get my head around adnan not having some part in the murder. i don't the murder took place when they say it happened though. most of the stuff that makes me think that way is circumstantial mind you. 

[Adam]

Yeah, I mean what is the alternate theory of the crime?

 

Jay kills her for some reason (why?) and frames Adnan. Some other dude, who knows/has something over Jay kills her (why?) and Jay lies about the whole thing to implicate Adnan.

[Schildog]

again it's circumstantial but adnan not attempting to contact hai after she goes missing is puzzling. 

[Brandon]

Yeah, I mean what is the alternate theory of the crime?

 

Jay kills her for some reason (why?) and frames Adnan. Some other dude, who knows/has something over Jay kills her (why?) and Jay lies about the whole thing to implicate Adnan.

 

Agreed.

 

But on the flip side, what is Adnan's motive? I'm not buying the jealous boyfriend aspect.

 

I thought about it actually being someone random or that dude that found the body, but Jay not wanting to talk but leaving some ambiguous comment about the truth makes me think he knows what's up and was in on something.

[yk9001]

again it's circumstantial but adnan not attempting to contact hai after she goes missing is puzzling. 

 

I am not sure why... they had broken up.

[Adam]

Agreed.

 

But on the flip side, what is Adnan's motive? I'm not buying the jealous boyfriend aspect.

 

I thought about it actually being someone random or that dude that found the body, but Jay not wanting to talk but leaving some ambiguous comment about the truth makes me think he knows what's up and was in on something.

 

Maybe it was a Muslim thing. Kill the infidel for X, Y or Z