Sheffield on TBS...

[jimbo]

Commenting on Hamilton and his total lack of energy and interest. Have to agree with him.

[joeywings]

LOL

Coming from a slacker, that sure hits home.

[Chimi]

Every time I see Hamilton hitting, it looks like all he wants to do is get off the field and go home.

[Docwaukee]

Every time I see Hamilton hitting, it looks like all he wants to do is get off the field and go home.

he looks like he's trying to remember if he DVR'd his favorite show.  Don't worry about Josh.  It's not worth it.  

[disarcina]

yes. really have to agree with Sheffield on that........kind of an interesting comment coming from Sheffield.

 

I am amazed that Sheffield -- 1.) is a TV commentator/ analyst and 2.) looks pretty comfortable and good doing the analyst work.

 

to me, Sheffield is a guy who had amazing athletic ability, was a very good ballplayer who could have been really great but let his attitude issues make him more of a journeyman player who bounced from team to team........

 

despite the attitude issues and being bounced around, Sheffield, at the end of the day, put up close to HOF career numbers in several stat catagories and could have had even better stats had he been able to settle down as a ballplayer and play with one or two organizations.......

 

he came up with Milwaukee and then went to San Diego -- the early years and promise he showed there were amazing.........to be fair to Sheffield he got traded from San Diego after putting up some near MVP numbers as a 3B and it was the owner's salary dump and complete payroll / player sell off more than anything else --

 

so to hear Sheffield calling out Hamilton for kind of dogging it on attitude is an incredible thing -- but I still think Sheffield's right.

 

Angels should have left Hamilton OFF the post-season roster -- his AB's tonight looked terrible.

[jimbo]

I have a hard time believing that a major league MVP caliber player made to look so completely foolish, consistently.

[fan_since79]

In Scioscia's mind, Josh was just scuffling a bit and don't you know it takes a couple games to get your timing back after a long layoff? He should be squaring up some balls by Game 5.

 

Of course, the problem is getting to Game 5.

[Angel Oracle]

Just retire Hackilton, you don't CARE anymore!

Scioscia is back to his old "play the washed up superstar" personna!

Edited October 3, 2014 by Angel Oracle

[bloodbrother]

I really can't stand this guy. I honestly think this team is better with this dude far away from it, regardless of his "talent/name" etc. Cowgill in LF, Hamilton far away from this team. I really think this gives the team a better chance at winning

 

he swings at everything and looks like he can't give a goddamn about anything

[joeywings]

Just retire Hackilton, you don't CARE anymore!

Scioscia is back to his old "play the washed up superstar" personna!

Good thing Ibanez was in the other dugout .

He would have  used him too.

[mp170.6]

Hamilton is acting that way because Scioscia doesn't have the balls to call him out. 

[Jeff Fletcher]

I understand that Hamilton isn't performing right now, and his swings look bad. But for anyone -- here or Gary Sheffield -- to say that a guy "doesn't care" just by looking at him is ludicrous.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have subjected his body to 12 cortisone shots in 3 weeks if he didn't care.

Josh cares. CJ Wilson cares. Ernesto Frieri cared. Joe Blanton cared. Raul Ibañez cared.

They all care. It's their life. They all work a lot harder at it than most people on earth do at their jobs, which is how they get to the majors in the first place.

[Butcher'd]

Who cares if he cares or doesn't care? That's a cop out from the actual problem.

 

The actual problem is that he sucks and Scioscia doesn't have the sack to sit him down. 

 

Another problem is that he sucks and is making a fat check for the next 3 years. 

 

I'm tired of reading about this guy cares or this guy doesn't care and blah blah blah blah blah. It's about performance. It's about results. Cowgill is a better all around ballplayer than Hamilton and he's not getting on the field. Simple.

[Palomar]

If Sheffield had watched the Angels at ALL this year, he would have realized this is not exactly new behavior.  Just like the TBS team that assumed that Howie had been our clean up hitter all season. 

[Oz27]

Whether he cares or not, he's ****ing terrible. And watching three or more years of his pathetic impersonation of a major league baseball player is nearly enough for me to want to join one of those Brazilian tribes with no contact with the outside world.

[yk9001]

I understand that Hamilton isn't performing right now, and his swings look bad. But for anyone -- here or Gary Sheffield -- to say that a guy "doesn't care" just by looking at him is ludicrous.

I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have subjected his body to 12 cortisone shots in 3 weeks if he didn't care.

Josh cares. CJ Wilson cares. Ernesto Frieri cared. Joe Blanton cared. Raul Ibañez cared.

They all care. It's their life. They all work a lot harder at it than most people on earth do at their jobs, which is how they get to the majors in the first place.

 

I have no idea if he actually cares or not in 2014 (we're not talking about caring when they were working their way to the majors). He certainly doesn't pass the eye test at all.  And if you are giving examples of players caring once they reach the Anaheim Ritz-Carlton, please don't forget about #tooblessedtobestressed.

[CanadianHalo]

His body language spoke for itself last night.

He has no business being in the lineup tonight. This team got to where they are practically without him.

[shellback]

any postgame quotes from hamilton? be good to hear what he had to say about his "performance".

[jimbo]

Thing is, an ex hof caliber ball player is basically saying the same thing we all are.

[DMVol]

Thing is, an ex hof caliber ball player is basically saying the same thing we all are.

I really like Jeff and I respect his opinion in this thread....but Sheffield would seem to have more credibility on this topic than any of us, Jeff included....doesn't mean he's right but he's been there, done that and you have to listen to what he says....

[Jeff Fletcher]

On this particular topic, with this particular guy, I think I'm more qualified than Sheffield, because I've spent a lot of time talking to Hamilton and his teammates.

Sheffield is doing the same thing you are, watching on TV.

Sheffield certainly knows more about baseball than me, but I don't think he's a mind reader.

By the way, I'm not defending Hamilton's performance. It was bad. Just the idea that he "doesn't care."

And when exactly did Sheffield say this? What exactly did he say?

Edited October 3, 2014 by Jeff Fletcher

[yk9001]

National media catching up with Jeff Hamilton

 

http://deadspin.com/this-josh-hamilton-at-bat-was-the-saddest-thing-1642038727

 

 

OK, so I knew that Josh Hamilton wasn't exactly a star anymore—a quick glance at his Baseball Reference page tells me that—but I didn't realize things had gotten this bad.

[yk9001]

If he actually cares, he is terrible.

 

Falling on his butt after a routine flyball out, which advances a runner?  That was terrible.

[DMVol]

On this particular topic, with this particular guy, I think I'm more qualified than Sheffield, because I've spent a lot of time talking to Hamilton and his teammates.

Sheffield is doing the same thing you are, watching on TV.

Sheffield certainly knows more about baseball than me, but I don't think he's a mind reader.

By the way, I'm not defending Hamilton's performance. It was bad. Just the idea that he "doesn't care."

And when exactly did Sheffield say this? What exactly did he say?

I am assuming the original poster heard Sheffiled's commentary on TBS (see his post)...I didn't hear it and so we are relying on the accuracy of the original poster....if he is accurately quoting Sheffield, I'll have to agree to disagree with you...while you are closer to the team, a guy who played against Hamilton and has 20 years of recent years experience in a dugout carries some credibility and chops, at least with me....at the end of the day, I guess nobody knows what is going on in Hamilton's head but there wasn't much from his performance last night to deflect the criticism....

[vlad27]

I really can't stand this guy. I honestly think this team is better with this dude far away from it, regardless of his "talent/name" etc. Cowgill in LF, Hamilton far away from this team. I really think this gives the team a better chance at winning

he swings at everything and looks like he can't give a goddamn about anything

agreed - he is a giant energy suck too - a wasted at bat - bring in a player that is hungry to win like Cowgill I'm sure would be