So what is everyone's thoughts on Obama's plan for ISIS?

[gotbeer]

Jihadists seize Kurdish HQ in Syria's Kobane, massacre feared

[Lhalo]

Turkey is a country full of assholes. If IS crosses the border and starts a war with them I will not shed one tear.

Poor Kurds. They have been let down by everyone involved in this war.

[arch stanton]

You might not shed a tear but since they're a NATO country you might be compelled to fight in their defense.

[Lhalo]

You might not shed a tear but since they're a NATO country you might be compelled to fight in their defense.

That org is a bigger joke than the Cubs.

[arch stanton]

Joke or not the compulsory defense pact is the perfect excuse to get us in for the long haul.

[Tank]

the armenians in glendale would be more than happy to see us abandon turkey. it would allow the US to recognize the armenian genocide at the hands of the turks in WWI.

[Lhalo]

Joke or not the compulsory defense pact is the perfect excuse to get us in for the long haul.

The Kurds are getting a little pissed at Turkey about the Kobani situation. If the Kurds start fighting the Turks what does the US do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/world/middleeast/kurdish-rebels-assail-turkish-inaction-on-isis-as-peril-to-peace-talks.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHeadline&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

[arch stanton]

The principle of collective defence is at the very heart of NATO’s founding treaty. It remains a unique and enduring principle that binds its members together, committing them to protect each other and setting a spirit of solidarity within the Alliance.

[TobiasFunke]

The Kurds are getting a little pissed at Turkey about the Kobani situation. If the Kurds start fighting the Turks what does the US do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/world/middleeast/kurdish-rebels-assail-turkish-inaction-on-isis-as-peril-to-peace-talks.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHeadline&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

Hopefully not touch that one with a 1,000 foot pole

[nate]

Hopefully not touch that one with a 1,000 foot pole

 

Unless they have oil.

 

[gotbeer]

The Kurds are getting a little pissed at Turkey about the Kobani situation. If the Kurds start fighting the Turks what does the US do?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/13/world/middleeast/kurdish-rebels-assail-turkish-inaction-on-isis-as-peril-to-peace-talks.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpHeadline&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

 

 

President Recep Tayyip Erdogan of Turkey has insisted that fighting the government of President Bashar al-Assad of Syria should take precedence over fighting the Islamic State. And he holds the P.K.K. in such contempt that he recently equated the rebel group with the Islamic State.

 

 

This is going to end well.

[fan_since79]

ISIS forces are stalled a few miles from the Baghdad airport because the airstrikes are blocking their path.

 

My question is why aren't we carpet-bombing them en masse 24 hours a day? It's a flat country, there are thousands of ISIS soldiers and plenty of tanks and other equipment. Just bomb the entire countryside within a 20 mile radius of Baghdad.

Edited October 13, 2014 by fan_since79

[TobiasFunke]

And about those civilians in the villages within that 20 mile radius?

[nate]

And about those civilians in the villages within that 20 mile radius?

 

Beat me to it.

[Adam]

They're not down with freedom so screw em

[fan_since79]

ISIS took out a key Iraqi army camp in Anbar province today and they're moving inexorably on Baghdad. Not to mention the takeover of the Kurdish area in Syria is nearly complete.

 

Yeah, those airstrikes are doing an awesome job.

[TobiasFunke]

Fan, do you think IS fights their battles of Syria and Iraq in a 100'x100' square box?

[InsideThePark]

what fan is suggesting is barbaric and would ultimately do much more harm than good. IS would love nothing more than for us to indiscriminately slaughter a bunch of innocents... it would feed right into their propaganda.

[TobiasFunke]

freedom omelettes ITP, freedom omelettes

[InsideThePark]

Hairy brown omelets? No thanks

[arch stanton]

Ever since Desert Storm and the relatively easy time we had the expectations for these military missions is rapid success with near zero casualties. 

 

This is a coalition effort. Just as we wouldn't carpet bomb Mexico to get the cartels, the other Arab states aren't going to be involved in carpet bombing a neighbor state.

[gotbeer]

ISIS May Have Chemical Weapons

 

 

The group, making gains in Iraq and Syria, may have captured chemical agents in Iraq in June and used them in July to kill three Kurdish fighters in the strategically important region of Kobani in northwest Syria, suggests a report released Sunday by the Global Research in International Affairs Center, a branch of the Interdisciplinary Center in Herzliya, Israel.

 

 

WMD's.  Bush was right!!!!  

 

But in all reality.  You would think that the chemical weapons would have come from Syria.  Why does Iraq, who the US backs, have chemical weapons?   Especially after the stink that Obama made about Assad.

[arch stanton]

Not confirmed, right?

[Lhalo]

Sweet.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/14/turkish-jets-bombard-kurdish-positions-pkk

[TobiasFunke]

Not confirmed, right?

Does it matter?

 

ALRIGHT BOYS, ROLL OUT!