Not sure what the answer is....

[tdawg87]

I can't wait for the next home appearance by Gas Can Frieri, or GCF for short. The crowd could get real ugly.

 

It's Angels Stadium. Half the people don't even know who Frieri is.

[jshep]

It's Angels Stadium. Half the people don't even know who Frieri is.

 

"Damnit, I hate when Rodriguez comes in for his nervous saves"

[tdawg87]

"Why don't they bring in what's his name, Pervical?"

[Homebrewer]

For me it's like this....  I get that the pen is a work in progress, and I get that with young guys there will be bumps in the road...  But  Green, Cron, Navarro, are all in the system and readily available yet we are being fed a daily dose of Freese and Ibanez in the lineup.   I don't have any idea how awful Green's defense may be at 3B, but if this team was willing to try Trumbo there then WTF is keeping them from seeing what Green could do?   I don't even watch David Freese at bats anymore, I'd rather go to the bathroom and seek out snacks while he's batting and then watch the commercials.   He's that awful.

I try to look away...but it is like a bus crash with bodies strewn across the interstate.

[tomsred]

"Damnit, I hate when Rodriguez comes in for his nervous saves"

LOL, everybody wants that 1-2-3 inning by the closer every night, and no one can provide it.  Now we are left searching for how big a lead is safe for Frieri, and the answer is that no lead is safe.

[tomsred]

Oh I'm frustrated as anyone. I want Frieri to play with Derek Holland's dog.

 

You mean that imaginary breed he thinks lives in his house, LOL.

[Homebrewer]

Percival and Frankie both had plenty of nervous saves. Percy almost needed to put some runners on to buckle down and finish.

Clean innings were never a strong point for either of them...

But...they ended up getting it done.

 

Not since Fuentes have we seen this kind of failure. I remember a game in Anaheim (against the Indians) when Fuentes and the pen gave up a huge lead late, and that was IT for me.....

That feeling returned today.

[UndertheHalo]

I dont think this is all about the bullpen.  The bullpen has been fine in stretches this season.  Usually, i'm in the Scoscia camp but this last road trip was real bad from a decision making point of view.  Ibanez continuing to play has for some time been very questionable.  Even Freese just recently has been moved down in the line up, and really his continued everyday roll should be questioned.  He has not been good. As for the bullpen,  Bedrosian should not have been in, and really at this point even Frieri is a pretty questionable play for the situation he was thrown into today.  But lets not forget that today we once again wasted a strong pitching performance.  In my mind our line up has been just as bad as the bullpen.  How many guys are we getting zero production out of ? A whole lot of dead weight on this roster.  Disappointing.  Its pretty remarkable that we have the production that we do have.  Anyway the season is still fairly young and the ship can be righted.  But real, real bad stuff today.

Edited June 19, 2014 by UndertheHalo

[ten ocho recon scout]

For me it's like this.... I get that the pen is a work in progress, and I get that with young guys there will be bumps in the road... But Green, Cron, Navarro, are all in the system and readily available yet we are being fed a daily dose of Freese and Ibanez in the lineup. I don't have any idea how awful Green's defense may be at 3B, but if this team was willing to try Trumbo there then WTF is keeping them from seeing what Green could do? I don't even watch David Freese at bats anymore, I'd rather go to the bathroom and seek out snacks while he's batting and then watch the commercials. He's that awful.

agreed.

I missed most of the game but caught the first two innings. As soon as I saw freese and ibabnez bat...there is zero justification to have either starting. Freese to a point I guess because he plays 3rd and has the 'potential' to wake up. (I assume its more of a save face thing though).

Hate to play 'what if', but its to the point that every game ibanez is starting over cron (or green), its not improbable to think he cost the team at least one run...and games like today show how bad that can hurt.

Its far beyond time to replace him with one of the young guys

[jshep]

"Why don't they bring in what's his name, Pervical?"

 

A month or so ago, I seriously had someone sitting behind me who was confused why Shields hadn't pitched lately.

[Troll Daddy]

There's no right answer ... btw the Tigers have the worst bullpen in baseball (silver lining). I think you promote Jepsen to set up or closer for the time being. Frieri is still a option possibly ...

[QuinlansMinion]

Frier is the new Justin Spier

[Ludwig Von Mises]

Kohn walks too many guys but he also has the stuff to get out of jams. Just 11 hits (1 homerun) in 23.2 innings was getting it done. Frieri gives up better than a hit an inning and far too many of them leave the park (8). I'm done with that guy. It's not bad luck, he just sucks.

 

Somehow Frieri either lost the ability to throw that excellent two-seamer or he got talked out of it.  Kohn isn't ideal but he's better than that human launching pad.

Morin and Smith can be the backend with (gulp) Jepsen throwing setup until something better can be worked out. Frieri can FO.

[ukyah]

The mistake was in not addressing the pen better during the offseason....  for three years now.

 

 

exactly. singing my song.

[ukyah]

There's no right answer ... btw the Tigers have the worst bullpen in baseball (silver lining). I think you promote Jepsen to set up or closer for the time being. Frieri is still a option possibly ...

 

i'll ****ing kill myself.

[joeywings]

The answer is, Fat Mike should write in the best line-up every game .

Put Aybar in the 2 spot, Trout then Hamilton.

Bat Fat Albert 5th, then Howie.

Get rid of Von Hayes Ibanez already.