Remember when we were praised for our baserunning?

[FurdTurgason]

Then guys like Vlad and Howie and Aybar turned us into the joke of baseball. It sure would be nice to get that issue back under control. I watched the Cespedes throw on the highlights and yes it was a perfect throw but Howie still should have scored. Wasn't anyone behind home telling him to slide to avoid the tag? And Albert, you are too smart to be Vlad II.

[angelstilldeath]

The issue with the Howie play was that the catcher blocked the plate

 

You aren't allowed to put your foot down and that's what happened

 

If the C would have left the plate open he would have been safe

 

That's on the review/umps to call him safe

[tomsred]

Jeez, that was an impressive win last night Furd, and this is all you can come up with? I hardly think this team is in any way "the joke of baseball." All teams make some mistakes every night, but that was a very impressive endurance win against some terrific pitching last night.

[nate]

Honestly, Pujols should be benched for a game for the shit he pulled yesterday.  What a ****in idiot running through the stop sign like that with no outs.  He was out by a mile.

[FurdTurgason]

No it's not the only thing I can come up with. We have our starters playing well. Our hitters are playing well. Our bullpen is coming around. Even our defense is playing okay. And yet we almost blew last night's game because of baserunning gaffes. And this has been going on for years now. Good point about the catcher blocking the plate but if Howie slides headfirst to the right and touches the plate with his left hand it would have been a very tough tag for the catcher. You know what team does little things like that? Oakland. And Boston last year.

[Reveille1984]

Hitting like shit and running through stop signs with your slow, lumbering gait?  Thanks Pujols!

[Inside Pitch]

Then guys like Vlad and Howie and Aybar turned us into the joke of baseball. It sure would be nice to get that issue back under control. I watched the Cespedes throw on the highlights and yes it was a perfect throw but Howie still should have scored. Wasn't anyone behind home telling him to slide to avoid the tag? And Albert, you are too smart to be Vlad II.

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=all&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=0&type=8&season=2014&month=0&season1=2014&ind=0&team=0,ts&rost=0&age=0&filter=&players=0&sort=17,d

 

Familiarity breeds contempt.

[Stradling]

Hey IP, I don't understand that, but I am assuming it means we are second in base running?

All I can say is that up until that game last week where we were thrown out twice by Cespedes we had run the bases very well this year. So really the complaining about this should be left as isolated incidents and not a indictment of our base running as a whole. Oh and Albert was really really dumb running through the stop sign.

[Inside Pitch]

Hey IP, I don't understand that, but I am assuming it means we are second in base running?

 

Yep, Angels are second to the Royals in creating offense from baserunning.

 

Jokes of baseball.

[Adam]

AW posters are the best

[Stradling]

AW posters are the best

best at what? best at going with their emotions (just like Scioscia does, by the way) instead of facts, then yes.

[eaterfan]

Yep, Angels are second to the Royals in creating offense from baserunning.

 

Jokes of baseball.

"If you're not first you're last"

[Richard]

We'd be losing our minds if disar doesn't send howie on that play. That was a highlight reel throw that we'll see for years.

The Pujols thing on the other hand was some of the most boneheaded base running I've ever seen.

Edited June 11, 2014 by Richard

[JarsOfClay]

Yep, Angels are second to the Royals in creating offense from baserunning.

 

Jokes of baseball.

 

they also lead all of mlb in creating outs from baserunning the last 3 years.

[FurdTurgason]

We were the joke of baseball when it came to baserunning back when Vlad and Aybar were doing something stupid every other game.

 

As opposed to 2002, when we were a catcher's worst nightmare AND an outfielder's worst nightmare.

[Jeff M]

The issue with the Howie play was that the catcher blocked the plate

 

You aren't allowed to put your foot down and that's what happened

 

If the C would have left the plate open he would have been safe

 

That's on the review/umps to call him safe

 

Wrong. Howie was gunned down by one of the most amazing throws from left field you will ever see. Norris' foot had nothing to do with it.

[Stradling]

they also lead all of mlb in creating outs from baserunning the last 3 years.

Is that true for this year?

[Richard]

Joke of baseball = a time when the angels won 5 division championships and had 2 ALCS appearances.

Send in the clowns.

[JarsOfClay]

Is that true for this year?

no they are 3rd just barely.

 

http://www.baseball-reference.com/leagues/MLB/2014-baserunning-batting.shtml

 

they led in outs on bases in 2013 with 66, and 2012 with 72

[Angel Dog and Beer]

Was Norris really blocking the plate? It didn't seem that way to me.

[Blarg]

Every other season of baseball that is about as perfect of a throw as seen in the game. Now knuckleheads are playing the lawyer game of nitpicking where a foot was standing.

Cespedes blew the catch and even lazily went after the ball. Any third base coach sees this, sees the distance the ball has to travel, the angle and they wave the runner. No sideways slide beats that throw. It was a once a season, maybe once every ten seasons quality throw.

Turd, you are living up to your name.

[Adam]

Joke of baseball = a time when the angels won 5 division championships and had 2 ALCS appearances.

Send in the clowns.

 

AW posters are the best

[bloodbrother]

They need more Brad Fullmer's and Jeff DaVanon's on the team. Smart base runners who are also white

[Chimi]

That was one of the most amazing throws you'll ever see. There was nothing wrong with that play. I hate all the tipping of caps that goes on but you have to give Cespedes his due on that one. That was Rick Ankiel-esque.

Edited June 11, 2014 by Chimi

[Blarg]

Fulmer blew out his Hamstring running to first, effectively ending his career. DaVannon had a fly ball bounce off his face breaking his nose.

Thanks but I think we will work with what we've got.