My super sleeper target to be our 5th starter: Marco Estrada

[Docwaukee]

Who?  Seriously, I was looking up some stats on som other guys and found this dude tucked away on the Brewers roster

 

Doesn't throw hard by any stretch, but misses bats, and doesn't walk guys. 

 

30yo in his second year of arb.  Could come pretty reasonably. 

 

http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=1118&position=P

 

 

[ettin]

He would certainly be a target if we were talking a Trumbo trade with the Brewers. Has a strong K/9 rate and good peripherals as a #2/#3 type of the future.

[AngelsAndRamsFan]

He seems like a good trade target. I prefer him over Hughes and Arroyo. 

[Chuck]

He seems like a good trade target. I prefer him over Hughes and Arroyo. 

 

 

I too like him over Arroyo and especially over Hughes.

[ettin]

I've actually been following him since the beginning of 2013 as I was looking for a low budget draft target for two of my fantasy leagues. He had a period where he didn't do well, then was out for a while and when he returned he was on point the remainder of the season. His strikeout rate will be higher because his changeup is pretty wicked which works against hitters from both sides.

 

Fly ball type too which would fit into our defensive philosophy.

[Brent Maguire]

This is a guy I would love to have.

 

He's older but hasn't logged all that many innings in his baseball career so far, which means his age isn't as big of an issue. The K/BB ratio is very impressive. 

 

If he comes anywhere close to posting a 2 WAR season over 150 innings like Steamer projects, he would be an absolutely great guy to have on this staff. 

 

Brewers desperatly need a 1B. Maybe Trumbo or Cron can get talks started. 

[Mark68]

I approve. He's got a repeatable skillset, as evidenced by how well his ERA, FIP, and xFIP align.

[Glen]

He's (apparently) Mexican so that's a plus.

[Second Base]

I'm fully in favor of Marco Estrada, but the problem here is the Brewers aren't looking at trading any of the pitching they have.  In fact they may even be on the lookout for one or two starters.  The majority of their projectable pitching talent is in the low minors.  They obviously like Hellweg and Pena whom we sent them 18 months ago but as we saw with Hellweg, they just aren't ready yet. 

[Docwaukee]

probably true scotty.  They would want prospects as opposed to major league players.  I thought he was second year arb, but he's first year which makes him pretty cheap and probably productive for milwaukee for at least two more seasons. 

[Scott34]

The problem with any team trading pitching is that they want prospects and we have the worst farm in baseball in at least 5 years.

Go team!

[Docwaukee]

The problem with any team trading pitching is that they want prospects and we have the worst farm in baseball in at least 5 years.

Go team!

 

that's why an overbid for Tanaka isn't that big of a deal as far as I'm concerned. 

[Angel Oracle]

Being a LB State alum, I'm all for it.

Estrada is an underrated pitcher, like fellow LB St alum Vargas.

Edited December 1, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Stradling]

But AO, Estrada is almost as old as Freese, you know that guy in his 30's.

Edited December 2, 2013 by Stradling

[Blarg]

Dirt bags unite, Weaver and Estrada in the same rotation.

[mtangelsfan]

But AO, Estrada is almost as old as Freese, you know that guy in his 30's.

 

I didn't know the proposal was trading for him with a younger pitcher under a cheaper contract.

[Stradling]

It isn't, but AO was upset about the age of Freese. Oh and I highly doubt we would give up a player older than Estrada to obtain Estrada.

[Angel Oracle]

Age was only part of it with Freese, although this org's luck in the past several years with acquiring position players who are at least 32 when debuting here isn't very glossy (outside of Torii Hunter). 

 

Freese's ankle and knee problems are also problematic, and combined with the above AND his several off field issues is not very encouraging.

Edited December 2, 2013 by Angel Oracle

[Homebrewer]

He was pretty good in CHiPS .