Who is more likely to rebound in 2014?

[Chuck]

Vote!

 

Both of these guys swings and approaches suck balls right now. Is there any hope?

[FireThemAll]

Hamilton IMO.

 

Has more of a track record of being good than Trumbo, and has far more upside if things go right for him. Trumbo is what he is. A guy who will hit 30 home runs, but only get on base 30% of the time at the most.

[JAHV76]

Hamilton better considering the amount of money they're paying him.

[Bruce Nye]

What happens to players when they quit juicing?  Do they lose a lot of weight?  Do they get injured or have nagging issues which affect their performance?  Do they see a sudden drop in their statistical performance?  Does this also coincide with signing a new contract?

 

Trumbo is the modern day Rob Deer.

 

Can you guess how I voted?

[Angel Oracle]

I voted like Montgomery Brewster would have.

[Tyler]

Hamilton

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

What happens to players when they quit juicing? Do they lose a lot of weight? Do they get injured or have nagging issues which affect their performance? Do they see a sudden drop in their statistical performance? Does this also coincide with signing a new contract?

Trumbo is the modern day Rob Deer.

Can you guess how I voted?

Rob Deer is an insult to Mr Deer.

Trumbo is a Bobby Hamelin.

[Bruce Nye]

Rob Deer is an insult to Mr Deer.

Trumbo is a Bobby Hamelin.

 

 

 

 

Rob Deer's 11 year average was a BA of .220 with 32 HRs and 198Ks.  Trumbo is the new Rob Deer

[Tank]

Hamilton IMO.

 

Has more of a track record of being good than Trumbo, and has far more upside if things go right for him. Trumbo is what he is. A guy who will hit 30 home runs, but only get on base 30% of the time at the most.

[fan_since79]

Rob Deer's 11 year average was a BA of .220 with 32 HRs and 198Ks.  Trumbo is the new Rob Deer

 

A fair comparison, but Deer had a higher OBP. 

[YouthofToday]

Ron Deer had a career OBP of .324. Entering tonight Trumbo's was less than .300.

Quite honestly Josh Hamilton would be the last guy in baseball I would suspect of taking PEDs. Considering how frequently he is tested + his known history he is watched like a hawk. This plus he knows anything can trigger a total life collapse.

[FireThemAll]

I wouldn't be surprised if Hamilton finished with better numbers than Trumbo this year. If Hamilton has a big month, and Trumbo continues to suck, it could happen. I don't see Trumbo being better than Josh next year.

 

I mean Hamilton already has a higher OBP and BA than Trumbo, and his OPS is now only 18 points lower than Trumbo's. 

Edited September 6, 2013 by FireThemAll

[YouthofToday]

Trumbo has a wRC+ of 103; Hamilton 98.

It won't take much for Hamilton to leap Trumbo.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

Ok Bruce, good call on Rob Deer.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

Rob Deer's 11 year average was a BA of .220 with 32 HRs and 198Ks.  Trumbo is the new Rob Deer

 

The first player who came to mind for me was Dave Kingman, but Rob Deer is probably a better comparison. Kingman had 442 career home runs, and I don't see Trumbo lasting in the majors long enough to get nearly that many.

Edited September 8, 2013 by Vegas Halo Fan

[Halos of Anaheim]

I thought an Adam Dunn comparison was a fair one awhile back, but Dunn walks and Trumbo doesn't.

[Angelsjunky]

Trumbo isn't far from his career averages so I don't know why improvement would be considered a "rebound."

[DW711]

Obviously Hamilton.

[maximus p]

Hamilton

Check out his recent rate stats.

 

According to BR: Last 28 days: 333/408/506.

Last 14 days: 344/447/438.

[YouthofToday]

I think Hamilton would really rebound will a manager who, when he states "turn the page" means the Bible and not some figurative bullshiz. I'm not even religious and I'm stating that.

[Jimmag]

Trumbo with a different team.

[Second Base]

Define "Rebound". 

 

If by rebound, do I think Pujols will play more games in 2014 and thus put up better numbers by virtue of getting into more of a groove, yes.  Will Pujols be as good as he was before?  No.  But .270 40 DB 25 HR's would be a rebound of sorts.

 

At the same time, Hamilton's got nowhere to go but up.  His pitch recognition this year is so bad it doesn't seem like the type he'll ever recover from. But he'll have to be a little better, with perhaps a little less pressure.  .250 and 25 HR's would also be a rebound.  

 

I think Pujols and Hamilton will both be about as valuable as I expect Kole Calhoun to be next year.  All will be solid players.  But only Calhoun will be worth his paycheck. 

[Ohtaniland]

So if Josh Hamilton hits .274 / 21hrs / 84rbi's / .361obp / .820ops and only strikes out 98 times next season it will be considered a rebound season?