Most undisciplined Angels team in years?

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

This game (Friday against the twins 4/26) is  a mess.  
this team is a mess. 

Trout and adell

ohoppe and Schanuel.  
 

Is this a Washington issue?  Has to be sloppiest play in year.  I get some years in game 150 when they are already out.  Are they going through the motions in game 26? 

[fan_since79]

Shaping up to be another sub-mediocre season. Maybe 70 wins if we're lucky.

Lots of holes in this roster.

[Jason]

We knew they were going to be mediocre at best and that is what they are delivering. 

[m0nkey]

Remember when people thought it would be different because the Angels released Francisco Mejia in ST, and people thought it was because he didn't try to go after a wild pitch or something?

[Angel Oracle]

It was almost like the Keystone Kops at times tonight.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

10 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

It was almost like the Keystone Kops at times tonight.

That’s what I’m talking about.  Brainless baseball.  O hoppe and Schanuel - fine. 
 

trout and adell, that had to be better.  

[tomsred]

This team is not undisciplined, it is inexperienced.  Key young players here with little minor league experience.  They are trying to learn on the go, and the coaching staff is appropriate for the job.  I think many of you are used to seeing free agents filter in to the team over the years.  Unfortunately many of those guys failed.  We have not even finished the first month of a six month season.  Many of you wanted to rebuild, this is what happens as you do so.  Mistakes are going to happen.

[AngelsFaninGA]

They've been one of the most fundamentally unsound teams for many years now. It's a broader organizational issue. 

[Blarg]

48 minutes ago, tomsred said:

This team is not undisciplined, it is inexperienced.  

Thanks, Tom, for posting this. Lost in all of griping is this young crew is learning to play together as a team and not a bunch of individuals making individual plays. This is, as you say, what a rebuild looks like. I'm not enjoying the losing but definitely enjoy watching the kids play and learn. 

[Blarg]

1 minute ago, AngelsFaninGA said:

They've been one of the most fundamentally unsound teams for many years now. It's a broader organizational issue. 

Just keep singing that same tune and ignore how most of the team were mercenaries the last five years. This is what homegrown young talent looks like, for every team. Then they become last year's Rangers or the Astros after their 7 year rebuild. 

[Taylor]

It's just not a very good team.

[Jason]

6 hours ago, Blarg said:

Thanks, Tom, for posting this. Lost in all of griping is this young crew is learning to play together as a team and not a bunch of individuals making individual plays. This is, as you say, what a rebuild looks like. I'm not enjoying the losing but definitely enjoy watching the kids play and learn. 

Does this include Suarez?

[cysomeawfulpitcher]

Now in it's 9th straight season! 

[Tank]

i didn't see what adell did last night, but i sure enjoyed his stellar play in RF in the 3rd inning tonight. 

[Chico]

Pitching fixes many things and we aint got it. Haven't had a good pitching staff for many years, Arte. For starters, Arte, get off your high horse and get Bauer, you idiot.

[Amazing Larry]

This is what “rebuilding” looks like when your farm is trash. 

[Angel Oracle]

On 4/27/2024 at 1:42 PM, Blarg said:

Just keep singing that same tune and ignore how most of the team were mercenaries the last five years. This is what homegrown young talent looks like, for every team. Then they become last year's Rangers or the Astros after their 7 year rebuild. 

If Moreno allows the true rebuild to proceed and trade off enough of the remaining players with just 1-2 years left to FA after 2024, like he should have with Ohtani after 2022.

It’s been like forever since they did a true rebuild.    This is a partial one at this point.

True rebuilds worked for Houston and Baltimore.   Of course, they had good scouting and development.

Edited April 29 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

22 hours ago, Jason said:

Does this include Suarez?

To be fair, he is approaching his late 20s.  Still don’t get relying on a guy who has been terrible since the beginning of 2023.

[AngelStew43]

Didn’t RW say that we would be better defensively?  
I’m not seeing it.  We are White Sox terrible on defense.  And, why does the pitching staff fold, as a group, at the least sign of adversity, instead of buckling down, hitting that location, and getting the next hitters out?  

 

[angelsnationtalk]

On 4/27/2024 at 12:32 PM, tomsred said:

This team is not undisciplined, it is inexperienced.  Key young players here with little minor league experience.  They are trying to learn on the go, and the coaching staff is appropriate for the job.  I think many of you are used to seeing free agents filter in to the team over the years.  Unfortunately many of those guys failed.  We have not even finished the first month of a six month season.  Many of you wanted to rebuild, this is what happens as you do so.  Mistakes are going to happen.

I disagree. There are only two guys that lack experience and that's Neto and Nolan Schanuel. Everyone else has had plenty of MLB/MiLB experience.
I would add O'Hoppe, but he's been playing well.

This team has a massive amount of vets like Trout, Drury, Hicks, Sano, Estevez, Moore, Cimber, Garcia, Cisnero, Strickland, Adrianza, Rendon and Anderson.

Between the vets and the rest of the team there should be no excuse to being inexperienced.

All we are watching is a poorly built team. That's all.

 

 

Edited April 29 by angelsnationtalk

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

The basepaths count. 

[Rollinghard]

On 4/28/2024 at 4:30 AM, Chico said:

Pitching fixes many things and we aint got it. Haven't had a good pitching staff for many years, Arte. For starters, Arte, get off your high horse and get Bauer, you idiot.

Exactly right! 

Angels offense B

Defense  C+

Pitching D+

We need a number 1 starter. We have 3 number 4s and 3 number 5s. Can't make playoffs with our pitching staff. We could clean up the defense and hit a little better (Trout finds it) but it won't matter without acquiring SP. 

 

[Blarg]

I'm sorry but we cannot take your post seriously unless you create a tier system instead of elementary school letter grading.