A’s release renderings of new Las Vegas domed stadium that resembles famous Sydney Opera House

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, Jeremiah said:

II don’t think they’ll draw even as many fans as the Knights do. That won’t be a good look for MLB or the A’s. There’s no local excitement for this. The only pushback I’d offer on the hotel/casino patrons is that, from what I’ve seen at Golden Knights, Silver Knights, and 51’s/Aviators games is that most people bring their families, including kids. Those folks are likely not pre- or post-gaming at the casinos. I don’t when I bring my kids to T-Mobile. I don’t see opposing team fans being enough to support an MLB team for 81 home games. As a sports team, is that what you want anyway? The team needs majority local fan support. Fisher won’t get that unless he spends $100-$150M on the roster. Is he going to suddenly start doing that in the 40th-ranked market when he never did in the 10th-ranked one? I don’t think so. If it was an expansion team, maybe, but for this organization? No way.

Kids can eat at the hotels just like adults.  You are correct about gaming.

You may have a point about not bringing in 33k a night 81 games.  

I see a lot of opposing fans at GK games and there are 41 of those.  

I think there will be excitement for the A's.  Las Vegas is not Oakland.  There is a lot more money than Oakland.  Media market may not be as big but you also have to include an estimate 38 million people who come to Vegas annually.

The good reason to believe Fisher will still be cheap.  However, despite being cheap they have made the playoffs more than many big spending franchises.

Edited March 8 by stormngt

[jeskola]

21 hours ago, Jeremiah said:

Actually, I don’t agree with that at all based on the history of this area, and the multiple times that our mayors have publicly lobbied for specific teams to move here. They tried for the A’s in 2001.  In 2004, the previous Mayor Goodman rolled up to the winter meetings with showgirls, attempting to woo the Marlins. They also made public overtures to the Expos before they moved to DC. All of that was before gambling on sports became mainstream, which is why leagues would say no. In 2018, they began talks with the Diamondbacks before the situation with the A’s came up again. With all of that context and history of Las Vegas openly recruiting baseball teams, it seems to me odd that our mayor would suddenly tell a team owner, basically, that we’re not interested.

Comparing 2001 and 2004 to 2024 in terms of Vegas + pro sports franchises is laughable at best and you should know better.

[jeskola]

12 hours ago, TroutField said:

No. I’ve never seen a mayor come out and straight up say you’re better off not coming to a professional sports team attempting to move to a new city. 

Vegas mayor thinking out of the box but she wants the franchise, dont be fooled.

[Taylor]

52 minutes ago, stormngt said:

Typo for hotels

Did you know there's an edit feature?

[Jeremiah]

41 minutes ago, jeskola said:

Comparing 2001 and 2004 to 2024 in terms of Vegas + pro sports franchises is laughable at best and you should know better.

Perhaps you didn’t read all of it, but I did mention a big change in attitudes toward Vegas in gambling on sports now being more mainstream. So, yes, I know it’s different now. I live here, and have for 18 years. I also mentioned their overtures to the Diamondbacks in 2018, but I guess that comparison is laughable as well. I’m laying out context and history around our mayors’ public attempts to bring teams to Vegas over the past 25 years. They’ve never made a secret of those efforts. So, from my perspective, having seen previous efforts, it seems very out of character for our sitting mayor to tell a team, who has actual plans to do so, not to come. Now, if you have something to add beyond chiding people for their opinions, then I’m open to civil discussions. If you’re just here to tell people they’re wrong and that’s it, then you can keep scrolling. There’s no value in that.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

On 3/6/2024 at 8:23 AM, Dtwncbad said:

A’s stands for Athletics.  OK, so it would be the Las Vegas Athletics.

How about keep the A’s, but change what the A stands for, and be the Las Vegas Aces?

People keep suggesting this, despite the fact that the name is already taken and copyrighted by our WNBA team.

[Jeremiah]

13 minutes ago, Vegas Halo Fan said:

People keep suggesting this, despite the fact that the name is already taken and copyrighted by our WNBA team.

I had brought up this point as well, but it was dismissed pretty quickly. I think people outside of Vegas don’t get how popular the Aces are here. They’re the only WNBA team to have sold out their season tickets for the coming season.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

On 3/6/2024 at 8:23 AM, Dtwncbad said:

A’s stands for Athletics.  OK, so it would be the Las Vegas Athletics.

How about keep the A’s, but change what the A stands for, and be the Las Vegas Aces?

Las Vegas Aces is the name their woman's basketball team

[Dtwncbad]

I heard the name Aces is already taken by another team, possibly even right there in Las Vegas.

[TroutField]

4 hours ago, jeskola said:

Vegas mayor thinking out of the box but she wants the franchise, dont be fooled.

lol okay 

[T.G.]

They should change their name to Armadillos.  Their stadium looks like one.

[stormngt]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

Did you know there's an edit feature?

Cant use the edit feature until you recognize the error was made.

 

Now let's get back to talking about something substantive. 

 

I am not the only one who makes typos.

I just don't point them out.

[stormngt]

4 hours ago, Jeremiah said:

Perhaps you didn’t read all of it, but I did mention a big change in attitudes toward Vegas in gambling on sports now being more mainstream. So, yes, I know it’s different now. I live here, and have for 18 years. I also mentioned their overtures to the Diamondbacks in 2018, but I guess that comparison is laughable as well. I’m laying out context and history around our mayors’ public attempts to bring teams to Vegas over the past 25 years. They’ve never made a secret of those efforts. So, from my perspective, having seen previous efforts, it seems very out of character for our sitting mayor to tell a team, who has actual plans to do so, not to come. Now, if you have something to add beyond chiding people for their opinions, then I’m open to civil discussions. If you’re just here to tell people they’re wrong and that’s it, then you can keep scrolling. There’s no value in that.

For living here 18 years you shouldn't have a problem understanding!

Since the turn of the century (2000)

First mayor Oscar Goodman and then his wife Carolyn Goodman have made it their priorities to revitalize downtown.

I know this for a fact because i was present for press conference announcing proposed plans to build a downtown sports arena where Oscar spoke.

Every attempt by the Goldmans to bring in  sports franchise was to bring it downtown.

If I am not mistaken the Diamobdback overture was to being them to Henderson. And not negotiated  by the Goodmans 

The Mayor of Las Vegas has no say....none..whether a sports facility is built outside of Las Vegas city limits and this includes Henderson.

She lobbied the A's hard to get them to use the Cashman Field as the site of their new home.

The A's rejected.  Her, in a pissed off mood,  suggest they are not serious and should stay in Oakland.

She backtracked on that statement almost immediately.  The fact is the franchise owners, the hotel executives, and the Culinary Union all want these facilities on or near the strip.  In fact i wouldnt ve surprised the leagues want them on the strip as well.

Butthurt by being rejected she made the dumbass statement using a narrative by those who do not want the A's to move.

There is no advantage to the city government of Las Vegas. Or the Mayor of the sites or outside the city limits.

Think what you want, but the explanation of her comment is pretty simple to understand.

[stormngt]

5 hours ago, jeskola said:

Vegas mayor thinking out of the box but she wants the franchise, dont be fooled.

She would give her right arm if the sports franchise site was downtown.

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

I heard the name Aces is already taken by another team, possibly even right there in Las Vegas.

There is nothing wrong with the athletics.

 

Personally,  i like, the name Sin City A's.  But i was told league wouldnt allow that.

[Inside Pitch]

5 hours ago, Taylor said:

Did you know there's an edit feature?

Yse, he deos.

[Jeremiah]

27 minutes ago, stormngt said:

For living here 18 years you shouldn't have a problem understanding!

Since the turn of the century (2000)

First mayor Oscar Goodman and then his wife Carolyn Goodman have made it their priorities to revitalize downtown.

I know this for a fact because i was present for press conference announcing proposed plans to build a downtown sports arena where Oscar spoke.

Every attempt by the Goldmans to bring in  sports franchise was to bring it downtown.

If I am not mistaken the Diamobdback overture was to being them to Henderson. And not negotiated  by the Goodmans 

The Mayor of Las Vegas has no say....none..whether a sports facility is built outside of Las Vegas city limits and this includes Henderson.

She lobbied the A's hard to get them to use the Cashman Field as the site of their new home.

The A's rejected.  Her, in a pissed off mood,  suggest they are not serious and should stay in Oakland.

She backtracked on that statement almost immediately.  The fact is the franchise owners, the hotel executives, and the Culinary Union all want these facilities on or near the strip.  In fact i wouldnt ve surprised the leagues want them on the strip as well.

Butthurt by being rejected she made the dumbass statement using a narrative by those who do not want the A's to move.

There is no advantage to the city government of Las Vegas. Or the Mayor of the sites or outside the city limits.

Think what you want, but the explanation of her comment is pretty simple to understand.

I think you and I have been through this already, and were talking civilly, then you need to respond to something not directed to you and insult my intelligence while doing so. I’m an English teacher, and I wasn’t even going to harp on your typos. But If you’re going to be rude like that, then just don’t respond. I already told you.

[Vegas Halo Fan]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

I heard the name Aces is already taken by another team, possibly even right there in Las Vegas.

The two-time WNBA champions. Aces is also the name of Reno's AAA team (Diamondbacks farm club).

[Taylor]

37 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Yse, he deos.

Genious

[Second Base]

Anyone that's ever had to catch a high fly ball on a cloudy day would tell you that the ceiling there would have to be changed. 

Fly balls would consistently be lost. 

[Jeremiah]

1 hour ago, Second Base said:

Anyone that's ever had to catch a high fly ball on a cloudy day would tell you that the ceiling there would have to be changed. 

Fly balls would consistently be lost. 

MLB wanted this to be a retractable roof. The A’s presented their pitch to the state based on a stadium with a retractable roof. Fisher says the closed stadium is for fan comfort and stadium utility beyond baseball games. I think it’s because of the cost or space constraints. Either way, I agree with you. There are a lot of adjustments that will need to be made here based on what has already been released.

[REDneck]

14 hours ago, Taylor said:

What is a hitek?

 

14 hours ago, T.G. said:

hotel

 

A hotel where? Iraq?

[angelsfan100]

How would that video board display work? It looks like a projection display. 

[Vegas Halo Fan]

9 hours ago, angelsfan100 said:

How would that video board display work? It looks like a projection display. 

As illustrated, it probably wouldn't. Even if they found a way, like how they put graphics on a curved roof over Fremont Street, it would be at such an extreme angle that it would be virtually useless to anyone sitting on the first base side.

Another observation that came from these illustrations is that there is no apparent seating in left field. I can't imagine that many people willingly standing for an entire baseball game 

[TroutField]

On 3/8/2024 at 3:00 PM, stormngt said:

For living here 18 years you shouldn't have a problem understanding!

Since the turn of the century (2000)

First mayor Oscar Goodman and then his wife Carolyn Goodman have made it their priorities to revitalize downtown.

I know this for a fact because i was present for press conference announcing proposed plans to build a downtown sports arena where Oscar spoke.

Every attempt by the Goldmans to bring in  sports franchise was to bring it downtown.

If I am not mistaken the Diamobdback overture was to being them to Henderson. And not negotiated  by the Goodmans 

The Mayor of Las Vegas has no say....none..whether a sports facility is built outside of Las Vegas city limits and this includes Henderson.

She lobbied the A's hard to get them to use the Cashman Field as the site of their new home.

The A's rejected.  Her, in a pissed off mood,  suggest they are not serious and should stay in Oakland.

She backtracked on that statement almost immediately.  The fact is the franchise owners, the hotel executives, and the Culinary Union all want these facilities on or near the strip.  In fact i wouldnt ve surprised the leagues want them on the strip as well.

Butthurt by being rejected she made the dumbass statement using a narrative by those who do not want the A's to move.

There is no advantage to the city government of Las Vegas. Or the Mayor of the sites or outside the city limits.

Think what you want, but the explanation of her comment is pretty simple to understand.

You are very passionate about this subject apparently lol 

 

Anyways 90% of what you said isn’t factual and is just you coming up with your own spin on it. Sure they offered Cashman field, A’s didn’t want it, now all of a sudden she’s bitter about it and doesn’t want the A’s in the city? lmao. Don’t you think it has everything to do with the poor location, 3 sports teams already in the city in addition to F1(all in the same area), and the amount of congestion it’s going to cause at that end of the strip. Not to mention the A’s have continued to show Las Vegas and Oakland they have no direction as a franchise. 

 

anyways weird thing to even argue about lmao