Angels sign Zach Plesac (1 year, $1 million) - DFA Kolarek

[mmc]

 

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

 

Lol.  So much for Kolarek.

[Stradling]

5 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Lol.  So much for Kolarek.

It says he was outrighted to SLC, so I’m assuming he’s basically a $900k minor leaguer?

[jsnpritchett]

Just now, Stradling said:

It says he was outrighted to SLC, so I’m assuming he’s basically a $900k minor leaguer?

Yes, he's still controlled by the Angels, but still just seems like a weird move.  Why even bother signing him to a guaranteed contract if he'll get bumped off the roster by a marginal guy like Plesac?

[Taylor]

8 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Lol.  So much for Kolarek.

More 4D chess from the Angels org.

[Erstad Grit]

Sign a guy for 900k and then a few weeks later drop him off the 40 man roster for a guy who cost 1 million. 

The Angels showing their master planning and vision. 

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, Erstad Grit said:

Sign a guy for 900k and then a few weeks later drop him off the 40 man roster for a guy who cost 1 million. 

The Angels showing their master planning and vision. 

BTH has a more positive spin on the moves.  I theoretically get this take, but it still seems weird to me.

 

[mmc]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

Yes, he's still controlled by the Angels, but still just seems like a weird move.  Why even bother signing him to a guaranteed contract if he'll get bumped off the roster by a marginal guy like Plesac?

If multiple teams are offering minor league deals and you want to make sure you get the player, you have to go the extra mile

[jsnpritchett]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

If multiple teams are offering minor league deals and you want to make sure you get the player, you have to go the extra mile

I guess.  Will make more sense if there is some larger plan going on and more significant trades/signings are made. 

[Erstad Grit]

6 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

BTH has a more positive spin on the moves.  I theoretically get this take, but it still seems weird to me.

 

So let's overpay for a scrub so nobody else in the league would want him and the bloated contract we gave him. 

[Erstad Grit]

7 minutes ago, jsnpritchett said:

I guess.  Will make more sense if there is some larger plan going on and more significant trades/signings are made. 

Right. If we're spending 200M on Snell then fine, spend the 900k to get the depth you want I guess. 

If we're cash strapped then its a stupid move

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

So let's overpay for a scrub so nobody else in the league would want him and the bloated contract we gave him. 

Bloated?  It’s basically league minimum. 

[Erstad Grit]

Just now, Stradling said:

Bloated?  It’s basically league minimum. 

Did you read The BTH tweet?

I'm commenting on his logic. 

[mmc]

14 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

So let's overpay for a scrub so nobody else in the league would want him and the bloated contract we gave him. 

Is it your money?

[Mark68]

32 minutes ago, Taylor said:

More 4D chess from the Angels org.

Is the rest of the league playing 5D chess?

[mmc]

 

[BTH]

24 minutes ago, Erstad Grit said:

Right. If we're spending 200M on Snell then fine, spend the 900k to get the depth you want I guess. 

If we're cash strapped then its a stupid move

It would be a stupid move if they are cash strapped.

But I don’t think they’re cap strapped, based on the amount of payroll space they have, their spending history (T10 payroll each year the last 20 years), and them giving guaranteed money to AAAA players.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

I actually like seeing these tinker deals. They are getting creative and the one thing I’ll say about Arte is that he will spend.  So maybe small moves before big move. 

[Erstad Grit]

19 minutes ago, mmc said:

Is it your money?

Ahhhh

The same response when I was critical of the pujols signing.

No obviously it's not my money. However as a fan I want the team to win and I'm aware they have an actual budget. Therefore when money is poorly spent it limits good spending and I think it matters. 

[mmc]

1 minute ago, Erstad Grit said:

Ahhhh

The same response when I was critical of the pujols signing.

No obviously it's not my money. However as a fan I want the team to win and I'm aware they have an actual budget. Therefore when money is poorly spent it limits good spending and I think it matters. 

Lol @ trying to compare the two.  $900k isn’t preventing this team from doing anything

[Erstad Grit]

These moves make two likely paths for me.

1. Arte is about to spend big. Why would an owner spend this much on middle relief if they aren't wanting to go hard? Middle relief is the easiest area to pinch on if you don't care.

2. Arte is about to sell. 

[Amazing Larry]

4 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

I actually like seeing these tinker deals. They are getting creative and the one thing I’ll say about Arte is that he will spend.  So maybe small moves before big move. 

I’d rather have this org make little tinker deals then blow their wad on another FA fail. 

[Erstad Grit]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

Lol @ trying to compare the two.  $900k isn’t preventing this team from doing anything

So you think signing a scrub no-one wanted for 900K and then weeks later removing him from the 40 man roster for a 1M player no-one wanted communicates a wisdom in leadership and a actual plan? 

Does 900k limit them? No of course not. However this move is indicative to me of this clown show we call the Angels. 

[BTH]

I was worried that they were gonna guarantee Kolarek a bullpen spot when they signed him, since he’s out of options.

So I’m glad that clearly wasn’t the case.

Right now, I think the only bullpen locks are Estévez, Soriano, García, and Cimber. Still lots of room to improve.

Beyond that on the 40-man, it’s Wantz, Joyce, Herget, Ingram, and SPs who could pitch out of the pen. They don’t really have any lefties.

 

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

8 minutes ago, The Ghost of Bob Starr said:

I actually like seeing these tinker deals. They are getting creative and the one thing I’ll say about Arte is that he will spend.  So maybe small moves before big move. 

Why not both. If Moreno gonna get richer by the day with a shitty on field product, I’ll encourage as much spending as possible.