Has anyone noticed

[AngelStew43]

Today's starting pitchers in Baltimore, Andrew Heaney for the Rangers, and Kyle Bradish for the Orioles, were both property of the Angels at one point?  

Bradish has developed into a solid number 2 for Baltimore, and Heaney seems to be a little more pitch efficient since he left Anaheim.  

[Swordsman78]

2 minutes ago, AngelStew43 said:

Today's starting pitchers in Baltimore, Andrew Heaney for the Rangers, and Kyle Bradish for the Orioles, were both property of the Angels at one point?  

Bradish has developed into a solid number 2 for Baltimore, and Heaney seems to be a little more pitch efficient since he left Anaheim.  

The Angel front office has been a disaster.  Arte is ground zero.   No one ever takes accountability.  But they dish out accountability to underlings who were handcuffed by following the master plan of the front office.  Exactly why 8 consecutive losing seasons.

But the goal may be marketing over winning.   We will get confirmation on that theory based on what happens with Ohtani

[full circle]

22 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

The Angel front office has been a disaster.  Arte is ground zero.   No one ever takes accountability.  But they dish out accountability to underlings who were handcuffed by following the master plan of the front office.  Exactly why 8 consecutive losing seasons.

But the goal may be marketing over winning.   We will get confirmation on that theory based on what happens with Ohtani

I used to think this was Nevins wife…. this might actually be Phil Nevin.  Hi Phil!  

[greginpsca]

I think Bradish has the 2nd lowest ERA in the AL.

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

36 minutes ago, greginpsca said:

I think Bradish has the 2nd lowest ERA in the AL.

3rd lowest

[Erstad Grit]

2 hours ago, AngelStew43 said:

Today's starting pitchers in Baltimore, Andrew Heaney for the Rangers, and Kyle Bradish for the Orioles, were both property of the Angels at one point?  

Bradish has developed into a solid number 2 for Baltimore, and Heaney seems to be a little more pitch efficient since he left Anaheim.  

Plus Webb came out of the pen for the Os.

[Taylor]

Kyle Bradish was the big piece in the Dylan Bundy trade.

Cue the "Bundy barfing on the mound" image.

[Angels 1961]

25 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Kyle Bradish was the big piece in the Dylan Bundy trade.

Cue the "Bundy barfing on the mound" image.

That trade now gives me an upset stomach. Maybe it was the spaghetti 

[Erstad Grit]

37 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Kyle Bradish was the big piece in the Dylan Bundy trade.

Cue the "Bundy barfing on the mound" image.

I'm OK with the Bundy trade. However we should have traded Bundy during his cy yong votes year. 

[Blarg]

4 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

The Angel front office has been a disaster.  Arte is ground zero.   No one ever takes accountability.  But they dish out accountability to underlings who were handcuffed by following the master plan of the front office.  Exactly why 8 consecutive losing seasons.

But the goal may be marketing over winning.   We will get confirmation on that theory based on what happens with Ohtani

Look, we get you miss your girlfriend but she's not coming back and it's her own fault so quit blaming everyone else. 

[Swordsman78]

21 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Look, we get you miss your girlfriend but she's not coming back and it's her own fault so quit blaming everyone else. 

Actually not a single person connected to the club said it was his fault. 

[T.G.]

Managers are rarely, if ever blamed publicly. They just get fired instead.

[Blarg]

38 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Actually not a single person connected to the club said it was his fault. 

Nobody offered him an extension either. Most of us can connect the dots. 

[Docwaukee]

35 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Actually not a single person connected to the club said it was his fault. 

why would they need to say that?  It's implied by the fact that they got rid of him.  

[Swordsman78]

Just now, Blarg said:

Nobody offered him an extension either. Most of us can connect the dots. 

Sorry you missed Perry's press conference.   

[Swordsman78]

2 minutes ago, Docwaukee said:

why would they need to say that?  It's implied by the fact that they got rid of him.  

In any corporate position  if you don't have "air cover" from someone higher up the food chain, you will be let go or demoted sooner or later. 

[Blarg]

8 minutes ago, Swordsman78 said:

Sorry you missed Perry's press conference.   

Sorry you keep missing the point. 

[Angels 1961]

Wait till playoffs 2024, halos will be adding some big names.

[disarcina]

I don't remember Bradish in the Halos system -- did we trade him away?

Heaney pitched for us but was very inconsistent here and then went to the Yankees and remember seeing him getting shelled in several outings there. Halos gave Heaney a fair chance - I don't feel that bad that he was let go - 

Bradish - can't remember him in the Halos system at all.

[disarcina]

4 hours ago, Taylor said:

Kyle Bradish was the big piece in the Dylan Bundy trade.

Cue the "Bundy barfing on the mound" image.

ah - now that make sense.  Bundy pitched well for us for a while -- while he was here -- what ? two seasons maybe?

[Docwaukee]

7 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

In any corporate position  if you don't have "air cover" from someone higher up the food chain, you will be let go or demoted sooner or later. 

you don't need air cover if you don't get off the ground.  

[Dtwncbad]

15 hours ago, Swordsman78 said:

Actually not a single person connected to the club said it was his fault. 

The overal failure of the 2023 is not Nevin’s fault.  The club said that explicitly.

But Nevin losing Nevin’s job is 100% on Phil Nevin.

[Stradling]

19 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

The overal failure of the 2023 is not Nevin’s fault.  The club said that explicitly.

But Nevin losing Nevin’s job is 100% on Phil Nevin.

This is a good way to put it. If he was impressing them in other ways, which by the way is totally possible, then he would still be here. If he could point to improvements made by the club, in a measurable way, then they would have picked up his option. I can’t think of a single part of the club that improved, compared to the league, this year. 

[Swordsman78]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

This is a good way to put it. If he was impressing them in other ways, which by the way is totally possible, then he would still be here. If he could point to improvements made by the club, in a measurable way, then they would have picked up his option. I can’t think of a single part of the club that improved, compared to the league, this year. 

The league wasn't fielding AAA players for most of the season.

The development of Rookies can be attributed to him.

The club was in playoff contention at the trade deadline.  

The clubhouse held together despite the injuries and losses due to poor SP.

[Stradling]

Just now, Swordsman78 said:

The league wasn't fielding AAA players for most of the season.

and how is that different than last year?

how did the starting pitchers perform this year compared to last year?

Just now, Swordsman78 said:

The development of Rookies can be attributed to him.

how?  Who?  Who improved throughout the year?

Just now, Swordsman78 said:

The club was in playoff contention at the trade deadline.  
 

yes, because he was given major league depth

Just now, Swordsman78 said:

The clubhouse held together despite the injuries and losses due to poor SP.

Held together?  73 wins.