Angels acquire Randal Grichuk and CJ Cron for Jake Madden and Mason Albright (option Cabbage, DFA Padlo, place Ward on 60-day IL)

[No Roles]

i mean grichuk is batting over 300 with 280 abs we have nobody not named ohtani that hits that well....

[T.G.]

I like that they're going for it. Life is short

[warped]

[UndertheHalo]

Many are saying this is the outfield Velasquez 

 

 

[No Roles]

i also love this trade cause it makes for more options when player's get healthy !!! i feel the batting approach will change and players will play better cause they actually want to be on the field !!! it will be a great place to be when we get there...

[Inside Pitch]

27 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Is Kendry(s) Morales available?

Trumbo is.

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, totdprods said:

Be willing to bet one or two of these arms we’ve dealt away for Moose, Escobar, Giolito, Lopez, Cron, or Grichuk are gonna hurt more than Quero.

There’s still a strong chance Quero’s best/likeliest outcome is like Victor Caratini.

It's possible.  His bat-to-ball skills, and plate discipline, are remarkably impressive for a 20 year old.  That said, a lot of his scouting reports indicate a fairly poor defender, and if that's the case, then that significantly dampers his projection.

I think Madden will be the one to watch.  I think both Bush and Albright seem mainly like backend SP-types, which while useful, is not a loss to mourn.

IF they can retain Ohtani, then our rotation is actually rather set for a few years, with Ohtani, Sandoval, Detmers, Canning, Anderson.  The 6th SP tends to be variable, but they have options with Bachman, Silseth, Koch, maybe Mederos, etc.  

Losing those SPs hurt, but I think only Madden might develop into something beyond a backend SP type.

[Angelsfan1984]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I too like to exaggerate 

Grichuk has the highest ba and obp of his entire career in coors. Cron has exactly a .300 obp playing half his game in coors. Who is exaggerating? I’d venture to guess they are probably on the low side of numbers for players In coors. 

[No Roles]

4 minutes ago, UndertheHalo said:

Many are saying this is the outfield Velasquez 

 

 

holy crap mike trout and grich are exactly the same age almost to the day...

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, No Roles said:

i also love this trade cause it makes for more options when player's get healthy !!! i feel the batting approach will change and players will play better cause they actually want to be on the field !!! it will be a great place to be when we get there...

"When"?  

I like the optimism, but the reality is someone is always going to be hurt, and this holds true for any MLB organization.

That said, it does seem like we should at least get Drury back before the week is over, and that's a significant addition.  Trout and O'Hoppe, though .. we'll see when.

[Angelsfan1984]

How many games before these 2 shit the bed and people complain that the angels traded prospects for them? I give it 3.

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Angels 1961 said:

Cron was hurt is he healthy?

Cron has been back for a month.

Grichuk has been healthy since missing the first 4 weeks.

[No Roles]

4 minutes ago, Warfarin said:

"When"?  

I like the optimism, but the reality is someone is always going to be hurt, and this holds true for any MLB organization.

That said, it does seem like we should at least get Drury back before the week is over, and that's a significant addition.  Trout and O'Hoppe, though .. we'll see when.

don't forget neto he is the fire starter of the team our true spark plug...that young man is special

[Torridd]

Perry did what he had to do. Cabbage couldn't continue to start. I just wish we got a SS so Squid wouldn't start.

[No Roles]

honestly i believe neto trout and a competent starting rotation will keep ohtani here...and the 600 million arte will pay too !!!

[Warfarin]

A few things stand out when looking at their splits -

1. Both have been fantastic in July, with Grichuk posting a 189 wRC+ and Cron a 144 wRC+

2.  Grichuk has destroyed LHP this season, posting a 168 wRC+

So basically, both are playing very well right now, and Grichuk will help a lot against LHP.

[mmc]

Surprised people are surprised... Did you guys really think the Giolito trade was going to be the only significant trade? 

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, totdprods said:

I'm hoping this winter goes one of two ways...

1) the Angels made the playoffs and re-sign Ohtani. The young core delivered, but we are immediately back in the cycle of needing to support the team without a farm like the last decade. Maybe Perry's quick-to-majors drafting solves that. 
2) the Angels miss the playoffs, Ohtani walks, maybe Arte sells, and the Angels can finally pull the plug and allow a 1-2 year rebuild. Keep Neto, Detmers, O'Hoppe, Moniak, see who you can get for Sandoval, Ward, Rengifo, Thaiss, Canning, Estevez, Drury. Go the full rebuild mode, sign a bunch of cheap rebound FAs to plug the gaps, let the kids churn for a year or two, and hope it all coalesces around 2025/2026.|

That's giving me a little bit of peace in these trades. 

I have been thinking about that for a few days now.  HS players are harder to scout, and usually need 4-5 years to get to the majors.

 

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, Torridd said:

Perry did what he had to do. Cabbage couldn't continue to start. I just wish we got a SS so Squid wouldn't start.

I hope Neto can start and I never see Velazquez sorry ass again unless it's during the playoffs to steal bases late in the game. 

[Warfarin]

3 minutes ago, No Roles said:

don't forget neto he is the fire starter of the team our true spark plug...that young man is special

Ah, yes.  That injury is more nebulous .. not really sure what to make of his situation.  I hope he can come back as soon as tomorrow, but back injuries can be tricky, so.. we'll see.

[Torridd]

2 hours ago, totdprods said:

I'm hoping this winter goes one of two ways...

1) the Angels made the playoffs and re-sign Ohtani. The young core delivered, but we are immediately back in the cycle of needing to support the team without a farm like the last decade. Maybe Perry's quick-to-majors drafting solves that. 
2) the Angels miss the playoffs, Ohtani walks, maybe Arte sells, and the Angels can finally pull the plug and allow a 1-2 year rebuild. Keep Neto, Detmers, O'Hoppe, Moniak, see who you can get for Sandoval, Ward, Rengifo, Thaiss, Canning, Estevez, Drury. Go the full rebuild mode, sign a bunch of cheap rebound FAs to plug the gaps, let the kids churn for a year or two, and hope it all coalesces around 2025/2026.|

That's giving me a little bit of peace in these trades. 

No full rebuild nor do I wish it.

[Chuck]

Just now, mmc said:

Surprised people are surprised... Did you guys really think the Giolito trade was going to be the only significant trade? 

They needed to do something STAT after losing Taylor Ward. 

You can't roll with Cabbage and Padlo FFS

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, mmc said:

Surprised people are surprised... Did you guys really think the Giolito trade was going to be the only significant trade? 

No.  Are people surprised?  I think they'll make another trade, too, before the Tuesday 3pm deadline.

[cals]

CJ Cron is a good looking man.

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Second Base said:

Honestly not sure why anyone is complaining. Madden is a big boy with good velo and arm angle, but he's a future reliever, at least from what I've seen. Albright has polish but lacks upside, seems like a back end or swing starter to me. 

It's not like they gave up anything irreplaceable. Two solid prospects for two solid major leaguers. 

 

This

As long as Dana isn’t traded, it’s fine.