Current committed 2023 tax threshold payroll

[Angel Oracle]

Assuming the Braves pay most of Iglesias’ remaining contract, based on 2022’s total tax threshold payroll being $207 million and subtracting Upton, Thor, Iglesias, Lorenzen, and Bradley, that should leave the Halos about $90 million under the 2023 tax threshold ($233 million)?

[Lou]

Just now, Angel Oracle said:

Assuming the Braves pay most of Iglesias’ remaining contract, based on 2022’s total tax threshold payroll being $207 million and subtracting Upton, Thor, Iglesias, Lorenzen, and Bradley, that should leave the Halos about $90 million under the 2023 tax threshold ($233 million)?

They're paying all of it.

[Vlad27Trout27]

190 mil, that is arte hard cap. 

it's just a cycle again, it's going to be the same bs.

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

Assuming the Braves pay most of Iglesias’ remaining contract, based on 2022’s total tax threshold payroll being $207 million and subtracting Upton, Thor, Iglesias, Lorenzen, and Bradley, that should leave the Halos about $90 million under the 2023 tax threshold ($233 million)?

They took it all.

[Angel Oracle]

Great!

Make that about $95 million under the 2023 tax threshold!

[TroutField]

4 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

190 mil, that is arte hard cap. 

it's just a cycle again, it's going to be the same bs.

Yup. It’ll leave them with 50 million to spend in the off-season. 
20 million will go to some oft injured pitcher they hope will rebound and the rest will go to an outfielder and a bullpen arm and they will tell us we plan on competing if some things break right. 
 

wash-rinse-repeat 

[Hubs]

Angels Real Payroll:

Rendon 38M, Trout 37?, Loup 7.5, Tepera 7, Stassi, 7, Fletcher 6. TOTAL 102.5

Arbitration Eligible

Ohtani (3rd), Barria (1st), Walsh (1st), Ward (Super 2), Maybe Canning (1), Sandoval (1). Total will be like $30.

Everyone else is under club control.

 

 

Edited August 2, 2022 by Hubs

[Hubs]

5 minutes ago, TroutField said:

Yup. It’ll leave them with 50 million to spend in the off-season. 
20 million will go to some oft injured pitcher they hope will rebound and the rest will go to an outfielder and a bullpen arm and they will tell us we plan on competing if some things break right. 
 

wash-rinse-repeat 

Syndergaard & Trea Turner.

 

[Make Angels Great Again]

5 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Angels Real Payroll:

Rendon 38M, Trout 37?, Loup 7.5, Tepera 7, Stassi, 7, Fletcher 6. TOTAL 102.5

Arbitration Eligible

Ohtani (3rd), Barria (1st), Walsh (1st), Ward (Super 2), Maybe Canning (1), Sandoval (1). Total will be like $30.

Everyone else is under club control.

 

 

 

I think you're way off on the Arb estimate. Mookie got a record 27m in 3rd year arb. Ohtani will possibly get 30m by himself.

[Warfarin]

1 minute ago, Hubs said:

Syndergaard & Trea Turner.

 

I have to assume they have learned their lesson about signing guys to long-term deals.  I do not think we will see Turner, Correa, etc.

Hopefully Ohtani will be signed to a large deal, and I really hope the farm can develop.  It takes a few years to see a new front office take over and overhaul the farm, so maybe we'll start to see some of that soon.

[Hubs]

Just now, Warfarin said:

I have to assume they have learned their lesson about signing guys to long-term deals.  I do not think we will see Turner, Correa, etc.

Hopefully Ohtani will be signed to a large deal, and I really hope the farm can develop.  It takes a few years to see a new front office take over and overhaul the farm, so maybe we'll start to see some of that soon.

The only way they sign Ohtani before the season is if they go big. He wants to win.

[bloodbrother]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Syndergaard & Trea Turner.

 

Bogaerts*

Dodgers let Corey Seager walk in FA because they had Trea Turner at SS. They aren't letting him go IMO

[tdawg87]

Just now, Warfarin said:

I have to assume they have learned their lesson about signing guys to long-term deals.  I do not think we will see Turner, Correa, etc.

Hopefully Ohtani will be signed to a large deal, and I really hope the farm can develop.  It takes a few years to see a new front office take over and overhaul the farm, so maybe we'll start to see some of that soon.

[Angelsfan1984]

Would be bittersweet to have Mickey mantle and babe Ruth never make it to the playoffs.

[Hubs]

2 minutes ago, Make Angels Great Again said:

 

I think you're way off on the Arb estimate. Mookie got a record 27m in 3rd year arb. Ohtani will possibly get 30m by himself.

None of the rest of them will get anything over 2.5. Ward probably gets 2.5. The rest are basically 1M players tops. Sandoval I don't think will be eligible, but he could get 2-3. I guess. 

Say 35 then. I was figuring $25 for Ohtani. But forgot about Mookie.

[Warfarin]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Haha!  Well - I am all for retaining "home grown" talent on long-term deals, a la Trout.  I see Ohtani as an exception to that rule in this instance.  I am mainly referring to signing free agents from outside the organization - Rendon, Hamilton, Wilson, Upton, etc..

[Hubs]

1 minute ago, bloodbrother said:

Bogaerts*

Dodgers let Corey Seager walk in FA because they had Trea Turner at SS. They aren't letting him go IMO

They did, but they also have Gavin Lux and he's an Unrestricted Free Agent. They have Busch in Oklahoma, Taylor signed, Muncy, Etc. It's not a sure thing.

Bogarts, Swanson also options obviously.

 

[Warfarin]

10 minutes ago, Hubs said:

Angels Real Payroll:

Rendon 38M, Trout 37?, Loup 7.5, Tepera 7, Stassi, 7, Fletcher 6. TOTAL 102.5

Arbitration Eligible

Ohtani (3rd), Barria (1st), Walsh (1st), Ward (Super 2), Maybe Canning (1), Sandoval (1). Total will be like $30.

Everyone else is under club control.

 

 

https://www.fangraphs.com/roster-resource/payroll/angels

Not entirely updated yet, but close.  I am assuming Ohtani will earn somewhere around 25-30mil alone.  Walsh a few million, Ward a few million (unless he rebounds and has an awesome final two months), Sandoval a few million.  Canning and Barria will get somewhere in the 1-1.5 range, I imagine.

Tabulating all of that, I am thinking we'll be around 145mil in contracts.  Should have significant money to spend, but in all honesty, the biggest issue will be how we can develop minor league talent.  That is what will ultimately determine whether we can be contenders or will continue to flail away.

[Jason]

21 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

190 mil, that is arte hard cap. 

it's just a cycle again, it's going to be the same bs.

And you know this to be for sure?

[ScottM]

The problem will be convincing free agents to sign here. Why would you choose this organization?

[bloodbrother]

3 minutes ago, Hubs said:

They did, but they also have Gavin Lux and he's an Unrestricted Free Agent. They have Busch in Oklahoma, Taylor signed, Muncy, Etc. It's not a sure thing.

Bogarts, Swanson also options obviously.

 

This IMO. Both will get big deals, but neither will get as much as Turner, and the Angels have a ton of other holes to address beyond SS, so going this route makes more sense for them

[Vlad27Trout27]

Well they did clear up an Of Spot so incomes Judge at around 30 mil per year.

so, about 20ish mil left

10 mil on a starter

5 mil on a backup starter, that is going to be a starter.

5 mil on BP arm.

and than repeat again, as this team remains directionless.

[Warfarin]

Just now, bloodbrother said:

This IMO. Both will get big deals, but neither will get as much as Turner, and the Angels have a ton of other holes to address beyond SS, so going this route makes more sense for them

We just drafted a guy with our top pick who we will likely attempt to slot in at SS.  He is starting off in high-A.  I have to imagine we will avoid signing a SS to a huge deal.  This team has far too many holes to spend tons of money at SS.

[bloodbrother]

1 minute ago, ScottSted said:

The problem will be convincing free agents to sign here. Why would you choose this organization?

We hear this every year and it's never an issue

[Hubs]

Just now, Warfarin said:

We just drafted a guy with our top pick who we will likely attempt to slot in at SS.  He is starting off in high-A.  I have to imagine we will avoid signing a SS to a huge deal.  This team has far too many holes to spend tons of money at SS.

He's 2-3 years away minimum. There are holes at both MINF spots. 

Jackson will be up before Neto.