Extend Raisel

[ScottM]

Alright,

Now that we didn't deal him, let's lock this guy up. He blows a save here and there but he's elite and his arm is something you can build a bullpen around. He should be productive enough to justify a 3 year deal through his age 34 season.

[Lazorko Saves]

[tdawg87]

Lock it up.

[Revad]

Get it done, Jerry.  Or whomever.

[REDneck]

We absolutely need him next year.

A extension has to be the reason for not dealing him.

If Minasian loses him to FA than he really screwed the pooch on this

[Torridd]

1 hour ago, ScottSted said:

Alright,

Now that we didn't deal him, let's lock this guy up. He blows a save here and there but he's elite and his arm is something you can build a bullpen around. He should be productive enough to justify a 3 year deal through his age 34 season.

Now this I can agree on rather than extending Cobb.

[Second Base]

If indeed we can count on Ohtani, Sandoval, Detmers, Rodriguez, Barria, Suarez (and perhaps an extended Cobb?), Then the Angels are looking at 45-ish million to play with, and will need a shortstop and a new bullpen. 

Let's just say play with the numbers and say they bring back Iglesias on something like two years, 14 million. That would leave them around 38 million to play with. 

When comparing Iglesias with his contemporaries that have recently got FA, you're looking at 8 million on the low end value and 15 million on the high end. Iglesias will be justified in asking over 15, but I think it'll take 3/45 to keep him. 

That still leaves the Angels with 23 million to play with and more than likely three more good relievers needed. That's PLENTY of money. 

The only way it doesn't work is if the Angels chase a TOR starter, and even then, if they backload it, they could probably pull it off. 

So yes, extend him. 

[ukyah]

i don't know why any player on a losing club, 50 games from FA, would forgo the opportunity to hit the open market, when that is the one and only place where they can expect to maximize their worth and choose their landing spot.

not trading iglesias was a monument of the angels continued dysfunction. i just can't believe it's the FO anymore. we've been through too many.

[ScottM]

1 hour ago, ukyah said:

i don't know why any player on a losing club, 50 games from FA, would forgo the opportunity to hit the open market, when that is the one and only place where they can expect to maximize their worth and choose their landing spot.

not trading iglesias was a monument of the angels continued dysfunction. i just can't believe it's the FO anymore. we've been through too many.

There are just too many variables that we don’t know to come to this conclusion. Maybe they are already in talks? Maybe Raisel likes living in So Cal? 

[AngelsLakersFan]

10 minutes ago, ScottSted said:

There are just too many variables that we don’t know to come to this conclusion. Maybe they are already in talks? Maybe Raisel likes living in So Cal? 

Lol, uh huh. I'm sure the interns are already drawing up the contract. 

[T.G.]

32 minutes ago, ScottSted said:

There are just too many variables that we don’t know to come to this conclusion. Maybe they are already in talks? Maybe Raisel likes living in So Cal? 

No one has seen him eating pizza in the OC.

[ukyah]

36 minutes ago, ScottSted said:

There are just too many variables that we don’t know to come to this conclusion. Maybe they are already in talks? Maybe Raisel likes living in So Cal? 

it doesn't matter. get the premium prospect for the most desirable FA you have, then sign him in the off season if he likes so cal so much and you want him back. all the angels did was forgo getting the premium prospect. 

[tomsred]

47 minutes ago, ukyah said:

it doesn't matter. get the premium prospect for the most desirable FA you have, then sign him in the off season if he likes so cal so much and you want him back. all the angels did was forgo getting the premium prospect. 

It takes someone willing to give up a premium prospect to get one.

[ukyah]

13 hours ago, tomsred said:

It takes someone willing to give up a premium prospect to get one.

there's no way you can reasonably just reject the idea that a superior player with a reasonable contract wasn't able to be traded when nearly countless others were. there's no way you believe that's true even on it's own stand alone merit, without even considering the angels history of holding onto expiring contracts.

[failos]

He’s not elite.

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, failos said:

He’s not elite.

You're not elite.

[Revad]

5 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

You're not elite.

Are we talking relative to AW?  If so, I’m not so sure.

[ScottM]

34 minutes ago, failos said:

He’s not elite.

He's 3rd in baseball in K/BB for relievers, 3rd in xFIP.

[failos]

4 minutes ago, ScottSted said:

He's 3rd in baseball in K/BB for relievers, 3rd in xFIP.

[Bronson]

48 minutes ago, failos said:

He’s not elite.

When he’s on, he’s elite. He can shut down any offense with ease WHEN he’s on. 

[failos]

1 minute ago, Bronson said:

When he’s on, he’s elite. He can shut down any offense with ease WHEN he’s on. 

I just noticed that he can struggle when the lead is slim. But he does have good stuff.

 

I think part of it has to do with the way Maddon occasionally uses him (having him pitch the 8th and 9th)

[Docwaukee]

18 hours ago, Lazorko Saves said:

he's dhalsim

[ScottM]

I would've preferred a trade if it netted 2 good prospects, but now that it didn't happen, all I'm saying is that we might as well have a good/great arm in the bullpen for the next few years for maybe 4-5M more AAV.

[tdawg87]

43 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

he's dhalsim

Nice.

[Revad]

47 minutes ago, Dochalo said:

he's dhalsim

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