The Official 2020-2021 Anaheim Ducks Thread

[gotbeer]

Another game against Vegas, another embarrassing loss.  It's now getting pathetic that Murray is still employed and this now goes right to the top.  Of all the good that the Samueli's have done for the team, holding onto Murray is just a waste of everybody's money and time.

[deepdrive]

7 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Another game against Vegas, another embarrassing loss.  It's now getting pathetic that Murray is still employed and this now goes right to the top.  Of all the good that the Samueli's have done for the team, holding onto Murray is just a waste of everybody's money and time.

Just think how you're going to feel next year when he's back and the same ol' same ol' continues on.

On the plus side, I think next season will be his last. My bet is Maddon taking over was planned when he took the AGM job. We'll see.

[gotbeer]

8 hours ago, deepdrive said:

Just think how you're going to feel next year when he's back and the same ol' same ol' continues on.

On the plus side, I think next season will be his last. My bet is Maddon taking over was planned when he took the AGM job. We'll see.

Mahura will look good in a Kraken uniform.

[deepdrive]

9 hours ago, gotbeer said:

Mahura will look good in a Kraken uniform.

Bob has a man crush on Manson. I'm betting Fleury will be fourth man out. I think the Kraken will take him before Mahura.

[gotbeer]

1 minute ago, deepdrive said:

Bob has a man crush on Manson. I'm betting Fleury will be fourth man out. I think the Kraken will take him before Mahura.

Hope you are right.  Mahura currently has 15 points in 19 games with the gulls with a +7.  That's almost more points than Fleury has had in 4 years in the NHL.  He's also 2 years younger.  Also looking at Fleury's minor league stats.  He showed lots of promise at the WHL level.  But his offensive numbers really dropped off at the AHL level and became miniscule at the NHL  level.

let's put it this way.  Has Fleury really shown anything that shows he's nothing more than a bottom pairing defenseman?  

[deepdrive]

Maybe not. All I know is what little I have read. There may be some hype there from him being a former #7 overall pick. 

I think when he was drafted, he was considered an overdraft. It seems a lot was put into size and skating ability. So, if other skills don't develop...   you have a reclamation project. And, Bob hasn't had the greatest of luck with those.

On the other hand, Mahura is presently not considered to be in the top 5 anymore by people who rate the Ducks prospects. Is the Kraken GM going to see him any Higher?

[gotbeer]

16 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

Maybe not. All I know is what little I have read. There may be some hype there from him being a former #7 overall pick. 

I think when he was drafted, he was considered an overdraft. It seems a lot was put into size and skating ability. So, if other skills don't develop...   you have a reclamation project. And, Bob hasn't had the greatest of luck with those.

On the other hand, Mahura is presently not considered to be in the top 5 anymore by people who rate the Ducks prospects. Is the Kraken GM going to see him any Higher?

https://fullpresscoverage.com/2021/03/22/top-10-anaheim-ducks-prospects/

Has him rated 4 behind Zegras, Drysdale, and Lundestrom.  

https://puckprose.com/2020/10/16/anaheim-ducks-top-8-prospects-worth-getting-excited-about/

Has him 7 behind Zegras, Dostal, Drysdale, Comtois, Perreault, and Thrun.  Thrun is in the US Hockey League (never heard of that league before, but he's 20 so odd he's not at the Gulls.)

[deepdrive]

Hard to be encouraged when the one that has you at 4 starts off your evaluation with 'hasn't played enough NHL games to be off the list'.

Scott wheeler has him at 7.

[deepdrive]

Eric Stephens @ The Athletic has it coming down to Manson or Fleury as the 3rd Dman protected. He has Mahura And Guhle exposed. He also sees Silfverberg being exposed along with Henrique. And, like you, Thinks Stolarz has played himself into possibly being picked because Seattle has to take three goaltenders and Stolarz might look good as a backup.

This in an article that came out today.

If he's right, I wouldn't be surprised if they took Henrique. He's been one our best players the last three years and Seattle has a payroll minimum to reach.

[gotbeer]

@deepdrive If Henrique is exposed, I have no doubt he'd be the one the Kraken picks.  How many chances are you going to get to get one of a teams leading scorers for nothing.  But I think the Ducks will protect him, which probably will make Silfverberg the Kraken pick.  Although we will have a bunch of exposed Dmen.  

This is who capfriendly has listed as possibilities.

https://www.capfriendly.com/expansion-draft/seattle

FORWARDS	AGE	POS	CAP HIT	EXPIRY	27/54
Getzlaf, Ryan	35	C	$8,250,000	UFA (2021)	✔
Kesler, Ryan	36	C	$6,875,000	UFA (2022)	27 GR
Henrique, Adam	31	C	$5,825,000	UFA (2024)	✔
Silfverberg, Jakob	30	RW	$5,250,000	UFA (2024)	✔
Backes, David	36	C	$6,000,000	UFA (2021)	14 GR
Rakell, Rickard	27	RW	$3,789,444	UFA (2022)	✔
Heinen, Danton	25	LW	$2,800,000	RFA (2021)	✔
Milano, Sonny	24	LW	$1,700,000	RFA (2022)	✔
Grant, Derek	31	C	$1,500,000	UFA (2023)	✔
Terry, Troy	23	C	$1,450,000	RFA (2023)	✔
Rowney, Carter	31	C	$1,133,333	UFA (2021)	✔
Deslauriers, Nicolas	30	RW	$1,000,000	UFA (2022)	✔
Lundeström, Isac	21	C	$925,000	RFA (2021)	✔
Jones, Max	23	LW	$863,333	RFA (2021)	✔
Steel, Sam	23	C	$863,333	RFA (2021)	✔
Lettieri, Vinni	26	C	$750,000	RFA (2021)	22 GR
Poturalski, Andrew	27	C	$700,000	UFA (2021)	27 GR
Carrick, Sam	29	C	$700,000	UFA (2021)	22 GR
Volkov, Alexander	23	LW	$700,000	RFA (2021)	✔
De Leo, Chase	25	C	$700,000	UFA (2021)	26 GR
Agozzino, Andrew	30	C	$700,000	UFA (2021)	24 GR

 

Definitely, you are protecting Volkov, Steel, Jones, Ludestrom, Terry, and Rakell.  As your last spot, maybe Heinen or Milano.  But they really haven't shown much, and I don't think they are better than Silfverberg or Henrique.  And between Silfverberg or Henrique, I'd pick the center.  

[gotbeer]

Also on a funny side note.  It would not surprise me if they pick Kesler if they don't like any of our picks. 

Why?  $6.8 million to go against the cap.  But insurance is paying most of it, so it's only I hear 20%, so out of pocket not much.  And you got the flexibility of during the season LTIR so money can be freed up if needed.  

Again, if they don't like any of our picks.  Picking him is a trade deadline free money for a run, or take a bad contract and player and picks from a team that needs to free up money.  

Again, long shot.  But if it happens, it would make a ton of sense.

[deepdrive]

Give them Henrique if they take Kesler.

I'd even throw in Steel or Fleury.

[gotbeer]

@deepdrive The other possibility is, could the Ducks protect Fowler, Mahura, and Fleury?  And leave Lindholm, Manson, and Silfverberg exposed?  Also remember that Silfverberg is owed $5.25  million for 3 more years.  Lindholm $5.2 million final year.  Manson $4.1 million final year.  On a rebuilding team, is Lindholm and Manson players you are going to re-sign?  (and yes, I'm still not a Lindholm fan.  I think he plays soft, and is outplayed often)  Also would LIndholm and Manson with one year left till FA'cy be more desirable than Silfverberg with 3 more years?  Although looking back, Vegas did flip a lot of players, and Manson or Lindholm does seem like the flippable type.

Also, looking back at the Vegas draft.  Those that traded to protect players were the one's that lost out the most.  Ducks, Panthers, Blue Jackets, Wild, Islanders.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/30-players-taken-vegas-expansion-draft-now/

[gotbeer]

It's going to be that kind of night tonight.  

[deepdrive]

I don't think Fowler fits into the Ducks long term plans. Go ahead and expose him.

After all, the veterans on this team have us third from last in the league.

[deepdrive]

Lol. When I read your post I immediately checked the score.

[deepdrive]

I don't get to struggle through it. I took Sling up on their deal to prepay 3 months and get an indoor antenna system for $99. But, it doesn't get here until tomorrow. I think there are 4 more locally televised games to see this season.

I should be set for the playoffs. The only channel I'm missing is CNBC. I don't remember too many games being broadcast there.

[gotbeer]

6 minutes ago, deepdrive said:

Lol. When I read your post I immediately checked the score.

You have to watch a replay of it.  It was flukey as flukey comes.  Shot from the line.  Hit the back of the King.  Stuck to his jersey, and trickled down and by Stolarz.  

[gotbeer]

And the floodgates start.  

[gotbeer]

This team sucks so bad.

[deepdrive]

Yeah, we look at the Ducks and think we have to protect this person and that person, maybe they'll want this person. Seattle is probably looking at them and thinking 'after they protect 8-10 players, there's really nothing there we want.'

[gotbeer]

WTF Zegras.

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[gotbeer]

And we continue to be Vegas' bitch.  And Murray will continue to hold the leash.  

[deepdrive]

Vegas is just paying us back for giving them Theodore by helping us get a better draft choice.

[arch stanton]

When was the last time any California team beat anyone other than another California team?