Los Angeles Angels Trade Stock

[Chuck]

If you were the GM would you trade the following players/prospects in an attempt to ramp up the team to succeed in 2021 & beyond?

Jo Adell and/or Brandon Marsh (for the likes of a Clevinger/Pleasac type)

Dylan Bundy (One-year of control, could be a good middle of the rotation guy on a winning playoff team). 

Andrelton Simmons (If a team loses a starting SS or is not getting the defense they need to succeed in the playoffs, I can see him being moved) 

La Stella (Has proved that his All-Star season of a year ago was no fluke. He can now play 2B, 3B and 1B which is valuable to a contending team)

Brian Goodwin (Prior to last night's game Goodwin had a +.900 OPS and has been a solid contributor who can play all 3 OF positions)

Andrew Heaney (While he was our #1 starter going into the season, he could be a legit backend guy on a winning team that's struggled to get any production out of their #4 or #5 guys)

Griffin Canning (Had a good minor league track record, 2nd round pick and has shown flashes of brilliance at the big league level)

 

[Angel Oracle]

It's finding a delicate balance between building a consistent contender and not having many more losing seasons.  

This is a bit of a crossroads now, since the farm has improved, while the MLB results have not.

[Justin]

26 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

Andrew Heaney (While he was our #1 starter going into the season, he could be a legit backend guy on a winning team 

That bit made me laugh. "He's our best guy. Maybe he could be a #5 on a team that doesn't suck."

I read this blurb yesterday suggesting Jones, Knowles and Ortega for Clevinger. That seems way less of a price tag than Adell and/or Marsh. (I would think Cleveland would get a better offer elsewhere, but I'm no expert about this kind of trade stuff.) 

[Jay]

Yes

[Chuck]

2 minutes ago, SoPas Angel said:

That bit made me laugh. "He's our best guy. Maybe he could be a #5 on a team that doesn't suck."

I read this blurb yesterday suggesting Jones, Knowles and Ortega for Clevinger. That seems way less of a price tag than Adell and/or Marsh. (I would think Cleveland would get a better offer elsewhere, but I'm no expert about this kind of trade stuff.) 

That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about our current GM. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

I would trade Heaney, Check On Bundy and Goodwins value.

[Stradling]

I would consider trading Fletcher if it brought back a young cost controlled starter.  Do I want to trade Fletcher, not at all.  But if we could get the pitching equivalent for him I would at least consider it.  I’d trade Adell for the right guy, but that right guy has to have had major league success and have 4 plus years of control.  I would trade Marsh for the pitching version of Marsh, in other words a top 50- 75 or so pitching prospect that is major league ready.  I would trade Goodwin for a teams major league ready starter.  I would trade Bundy for a couple of Sandovals.  I would also have no problem packaging a bunch of the other guys, Knowles and guys like him for a young starter with control for a few years.  I wouldn’t want to trade any of our pitching with control or in the minors for an arm, I’d like to keep them.  

[Vlad27Trout27]

8 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

That pretty much tells you everything you need to know about our current GM. 

It's also Clevland..they prefer specific players rather than a top 100.

[Justin]

The only guy on the list I want to keep under any circumstance is Canning. As long as he's healthy - I know, a big if - I think he is going to keep improving. Maybe he'll never be an ace, but for an organization starved for pitching, a quality pitcher under control for 4 more seasons is indispensable. 

[Vlad27Trout27]

If there is a Chnace that we could get Both Clev and Plesac, I would happily include Adell.

Your getting an Ace and then a 2/3.

 

[Vlad27Trout27]

I thing one thing that we need to consider, with Clev and Plesac is how are they going to act in the club house, with the owners and Manager. Them getting send down did f them up and their service time. I wouldn't be surprised if their pissed and the the other guys in the clubhouse could also be pissed at them for being stupid. This might limit there value or atleast Clev.

[totdprods]

31 minutes ago, SoPas Angel said:

That bit made me laugh. "He's our best guy. Maybe he could be a #5 on a team that doesn't suck."

I read this blurb yesterday suggesting Jones, Knowles and Ortega for Clevinger. That seems way less of a price tag than Adell and/or Marsh. (I would think Cleveland would get a better offer elsewhere, but I'm no expert about this kind of trade stuff.) 

That seems awfully low. All three of those guys are far too questionable or low-profile for someone like Clevinger. They’ll ask for at least one of these guys to headline...one of our MLB-level SPs, one of the top 3 OF prospects or Goodwin, or Rengifo/Thaiss. The rest mentioned might fill it out. 

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, totdprods said:

That seems awfully low. All three of those guys are far too questionable or low-profile for someone like Clevinger. They’ll ask for at least one of these guys to headline...one of our MLB-level SPs, one of the top 3 OF prospects or Goodwin, or Rengifo/Thaiss. The rest mentioned might fill it out. 

They will ask for Marsh or Adell.  They might even demand it.  If what I read is true where the Red Sox said they would consider moving Verdugo for one of them, then you have to be willing to give up talent or you won’t get him.  

[Chuck]

25 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I would consider trading Fletcher if it brought back a young cost controlled starter.  Do I want to trade Fletcher, not at all.  But if we could get the pitching equivalent for him I would at least consider it.  I’d trade Adell for the right guy, but that right guy has to have had major league success and have 4 plus years of control.  I would trade Marsh for the pitching version of Marsh, in other words a top 50- 75 or so pitching prospect that is major league ready.  I would trade Goodwin for a teams major league ready starter.  I would trade Bundy for a couple of Sandovals.  I would also have no problem packaging a bunch of the other guys, Knowles and guys like him for a young starter with control for a few years.  I wouldn’t want to trade any of our pitching with control or in the minors for an arm, I’d like to keep them.  

That's a bold take on trading Fletcher, @Stradling. I think you could argue that he may be the most attractive player on our team, ahead of Adell and Bundy. 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Chuckster70 said:

That's a bold take on trading Fletcher, @Stradling. I think you could argue that he may be the most attractive player on our team, ahead of Adell and Bundy. 

Yep, which is why I would only trade him for the pitching version of him.  Someone with 5 plus years of control.  I’d trade him for a guy like Gallen and if Plesac is the real deal then probably for a guy like Plesac.  Fletcher is my favorite Angel not named Trout.  But he is much easier to replace than a #1 or 2 starter.  

[Stradling]

I think our tradeable assets would go like this as far as value:

Adell

Fletcher

Goodwin

Marsh

 

[Claude]

They need to tank, cut, sell and draft wisely. The current plan of caring for the elderly is not good for running a baseball team. 

[Chuck]

The Indians are promoting their top pitching prospect to the big leagues. This could spell the end of Clevinger and/or Pleasac.

• Indians RHP prospect Triston McKenzie is scheduled to make his MLB debut in a start Saturday against the Tigers.

  McKenzie has missed large chunks of the last two seasons due to forearm and shoulder issues, but he's healthy now and was a consensus top-50 prospect not all that long ago. The 23-year-old former supplemental first-round pick holds a 2.68 ERA, 0.997 WHIP, and 394/98 K/BB ratio in 329 career minor league innings.

  SOURCE: Cleveland Plain Dealer

  Aug 20, 2020, 2:09 PM ET

   
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[Claude]

4 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think our tradeable assets would go like this as far as value:

Adell

Fletcher

Goodwin

Marsh

 

When I mentioned that they should trade Adell for Betts you said they shouldn’t trade Adell. 

[Chuck]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think our tradeable assets would go like this as far as value:

Adell

Fletcher

Bundy

Goodwin

Marsh

 

I added Bundy..

[Angels in 2030]

[AngelsLakersFan]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I think our tradeable assets would go like this as far as value:

Adell

Fletcher

Goodwin

Marsh

 

I think most teams would take Marsh over Goodwin unless they are hurting for an OF today and are giving up a prospect.

[Claude]

24 minutes ago, Chuckster70 said:

The Indians are promoting their top pitching prospect to the big leagues. This could spell the end of Clevinger and/or Pleasac.

• Indians RHP prospect Triston McKenzie is scheduled to make his MLB debut in a start Saturday against the Tigers.

  McKenzie has missed large chunks of the last two seasons due to forearm and shoulder issues, but he's healthy now and was a consensus top-50 prospect not all that long ago. The 23-year-old former supplemental first-round pick holds a 2.68 ERA, 0.997 WHIP, and 394/98 K/BB ratio in 329 career minor league innings.

  SOURCE: Cleveland Plain Dealer

  Aug 20, 2020, 2:09 PM ET

   
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I think if they keep Clevinger down they will delay his free agency rights by one year. 

Edited August 20, 2020 by RendZone

[AngelsLakersFan]

Also I'm opened to trading anyone, assuming enough in return.

[Erstad Grit]

Get Simmons healthy and trade him to roll with fletcher next year.  

Bundy might be the best SP available via trade so take advantage and sign bauer in offseason. I like Bundy but he's playing above his head imo. 

If la stella has value him too.  

What a disgrace with trout and Rendon we're not able to compete for a 3rd place .500 playoff spot.