Taylor Ward is catching again!

[DMVol]

38 minutes ago, HaloNArizona said:

Not this year...You can only make trades from your 60 player pool....

Who is going to make a move for a (so far) career minor league player??  Unless some team loses every single catcher in their player pool....maybe.  But a trade this year is not likely to happen.

He is in the 60 player pool....

[HaloNArizona]

On 7/20/2020 at 12:52 PM, DMVol said:

He is in the 60 player pool....

I know he is...Taylor Ward is probably worth a low level minor leaguer....Pretty much any return for a guy like Ward is not a some other teams current 60 man player pool.

[DMVol]

3 minutes ago, HaloNArizona said:

I know he is...Taylor Ward is probably worth a low level minor leaguer....Pretty much any return for a guy like Ward is not a some other teams current 60 man player pool.

Those DiPoto 1st round draft picks are the gift that keeps on giving...not to be mention International signings like Baldoquin....

[Dtwncbad]

On 7/22/2020 at 1:05 PM, HaloNArizona said:

I know he is...Taylor Ward is probably worth a low level minor leaguer....Pretty much any return for a guy like Ward is not a some other teams current 60 man player pool.

He has zero trade value.

[failos]

On 7/23/2020 at 5:44 PM, Dtwncbad said:

He has zero trade value.

I agree

[Dtwncbad]

9 hours ago, failos said:

I agree

Yes we agree they would have received nothing for Taylor Ward on July 23, 2020.

[Jeff Fletcher]

9 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Yes we agree they would have received nothing for Taylor Ward on July 23, 2020.

Ward was allegedly (I was never able to confirm it) one of the players the Dodgers wanted in Feb 2020 in the Stripling-Pederson deal. 

Edited May 15, 2022 by Jeff Fletcher

[tdawg87]

2 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Ward was allegedly (I was never able to confirm it) one of the players the Dodgers wanted in Feb 2020 in the Stripling-Pederson deal. 

Oh god

[Dtwncbad]

12 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Ward was allegedly (I was never able to confirm it) one of the players the Dodgers wanted in Feb 2020 in the Stripling-Pederson deal. 

Ward, at that time, was probably involved with a mess of trade talk since he was expendable and probably the easiest “throw-in”. . . I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was the Angels trying to insert him into deals hoping the other team could squint and see something worth having.

But I don’t see the point of being up this old post from 2020.  I don’t think anyone would disagree that Ward in 2020 was closer to worthless (basically a throw in) than being a premium prospect to be a significant part to acquire an impact player.

Obviously his value has changed tremendously and everyone who follows the Angels is very happy for that to be true.

[DMVol]

4 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Ward, at that time, was probably involved with a mess of trade talk since he was expendable and probably the easiest “throw-in”. . . I wouldn’t be surprised at all if it was the Angels trying to insert him into deals hoping the other team could squint and see something worth having.

But I don’t see the point of being up this old post from 2020.  I don’t think anyone would disagree that Ward in 2020 was closer to worthless (basically a throw in) than being a premium prospect to be a significant part to acquire an impact player.

Obviously his value has changed tremendously and everyone who follows the Angels is very happy for that to be true.

Nobody saw it coming, including Jeff Fletcher….

[Dtwncbad]

Just now, DMVol said:

Nobody saw it coming, including Jeff Fletcher….

I sure didn’t.  I was so done with this guy.  Obviously I pull for all minor leaguers to develop and be good players.  I had no personal beef with Ward.  I just thought the ship had sailed and I really thought it was time to move on.

I probably displayed the frustration most often when people talked about trades because people are often so protective of the premium prospects but they still want to acquire high quality impact players. . . So there is a tendency to suggest the Angels keep the premium prospects and somehow acquire an elite talent by trading a volume of third tier prospects and throw-ins.

So sometimes it feels appropriate to point out that a certain player isn’t going to get you what you are looking for.

No quantity of (the 2020 version of) Taylor Wards was going to get the Angels an impact player.

They would have had to be willing to move one of their premium prospects and then maybe Ward would have been a throw in at the end.

In that honest context, saying he had no trade value was fair.

[Blarg]

17 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

 I just thought the ship had sailed and I really thought it was time to move on.

okay. 

[gurn67]

For the last couple of years, I assumed he was going to end up with the Mariners somehow, and at best be a solid platoon player.

[failos]

1 hour ago, Dtwncbad said:

In that honest context, saying he had no trade value was fair.

He did have trade value. We would've gotten a solid pitcher and OFer.

Edited May 15, 2022 by failos
Need coffee

[Docwaukee]

In 2020, he was neither worthless nor had premium prospect value.  He'd have been a mid level addition to someone else to get an elite player.  People undervalue proximity to the majors.  What they don't realize is that for certain teams, a guy who's the 20th ranked prospect in AAA putting up really good numbers might have more value than the top 100 guy in low A.  That's why trades are so f'n hard.  

[m0nkey]

Imagine this place if Ward had his April 2022 with the Dodgers.  That might have put AW over the edge

[Angelsjunky]

I saw it coming. I said so in 2018, but deleted the post a couple weeks ago because I didn't want to make y'all feel stupid. But really, I did. If you followed me on twitter, you'd know.

[zenmaster]

So Arte saved the day after all?

[Lou]

17 minutes ago, Angelsjunky said:

I saw it coming. I said so in 2018, but deleted the post a couple weeks ago because I didn't want to make y'all feel stupid. But really, I did. If you followed me on twitter, you'd know.

 

[stormngt]

1 hour ago, Angelsjunky said:

I saw it coming. I said so in 2018, but deleted the post a couple weeks ago because I didn't want to make y'all feel stupid. But really, I did. If you followed me on twitter, you'd know.

What's your Twitter handle?

[Pancake Bear]

MLBtradevalues has Ward's value currently at 1. Guessing if his name were to come up in trade discussions, a team would have to offer considerably more value than that in return. Of course, it would make no sense for the Angels to trade him currently, and another team would be foolish to without having a better idea of how sustainable his new adjustments are. 

[Taylor]

10 hours ago, Angelsjunky said:

I saw it coming. I said so in 2018, but deleted the post a couple weeks ago because I didn't want to make y'all feel stupid. But really, I did. If you followed me on twitter, you'd know.

[Taylor]

9 hours ago, stormngt said:

What's your Twitter handle?

@PioDeportes

[Angel Dog and Beer]

12 hours ago, zenmaster said:

So Arte saved the day after all?