2020 Election

[RallyMo]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

What happens when another system doesn't work right?

You address issues?

[failos]

Edited October 17, 2020 by failos

[arch stanton]

15 minutes ago, Jason said:

No fraud? I’m sure there could be a way and it’s been done but it would be more difficult. 

So what’s the acceptable degree of difficulty? And I’ll submit to you that any level of voter suppression is a more reprehensible form of fraud in the name of fraud prevention 

[St1ck]

50 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

But after the inauguration, what has Trump truly done that is reprehensible, other than acting so cocky far too often?    What he did before taking office should not impact his legacy during his term(s).

Here is likely why people (politicians, media) get pissed at Trump so much.  He’s threatening to them because he’s an outsider.

Purposely downplaying a virus that has now killed over 200,000 people in the US is pretty fucking reprehensible.

[tdawg87]

I miss AO before he got Chuck'd.

[St1ck]

1 minute ago, calscuf said:

Separating little Mexicans from big Mexicans wasn’t very nice, too.

What about when he shut down the government for five weeks during the holidays for no reason?

[St1ck]

1 minute ago, calscuf said:

Yeah, that was a good one.  What about emboldening  white supremacy groups?

I vaguely remember that one. What about when he pardoned war criminals and stripped the whistle-blowers of their ranks?

[Angel Oracle]

There’s plenty of blame on both sides with the CoVid.

I’ll grant the children at the border issue being one I would have thought about a different way to approach.  Children should not be separated. 

It’s not so much Trump as who is the likely alternative in the WH: Harris/Pelosi?    No thank you 

I do dream one day of having both parties put out candidates that are known for consensus governing with minimal lobbyist and extremist backers.   

Okay, the impossible dream, going out to find windmills now

Edited October 17, 2020 by Angel Oracle

[Angel Oracle]

9 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Yeah, that was a good one.  What about emboldening  white supremacy groups?

He did condemn them three times at the first debate. 

[St1ck]

3 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Yeah, that was silly!  What about staffing his cabinet with totally incompetent people, including his retarded family, and when (by accident) he would hire someone with half a brain, he would fire them for questioning his stupidity? 

He's just draining the swamp! And then refilling it with swampier people. 

What about how he has charged the Secret Service hundreds of thousands of dollars while he golfs on his own properties?

[St1ck]

7 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

There’s plenty of blame on both sides with the CoVid.

 

Sure, but we have one individual on tape admitting he did it on purpose. We can just refer to him as "Individual 1."

[St1ck]

45 minutes ago, calscuf said:

Where are they supposed to stay? Motel 6?

what about when he tear gassed protesters so he could have the photo op in front of the church?

 

I do remember that one. 

What about when he diverted money for military housing to use for a border wall? I think he said he would just take people's land to build that wall as well.

Edited October 17, 2020 by st1ckboy

[Jason]

49 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

So what’s the acceptable degree of difficulty? And I’ll submit to you that any level of voter suppression is a more reprehensible form of fraud in the name of fraud prevention 

I've said on here before that communities need more polling places for in person voting as it is the best way. As far as fraud and suppression, they are kind of the same thing. 

[St1ck]

4 minutes ago, Jason said:

As far as fraud and suppression, they are kind of the same thing. 

Except one happens a shit load more than the other. 

Edited October 17, 2020 by st1ckboy

[arch stanton]

18 minutes ago, Jason said:

I've said on here before that communities need more polling places for in person voting as it is the best way. As far as fraud and suppression, they are kind of the same thing. 

Is it really the best way or just the most convenient way for the vote collectors? It's 2020 and we've come a long way in creating solutions when we feel it's necessary. Maybe it's time to put some of the "American Exceptionalism" that we're so proud of to work in creating a better system of voting. Or maybe not a single swinging dick who has any sway in solving this has any motive to actually solve it?

[Kevin]

I think his killing of Afghanistan civilians was a nice touch and a tribute to Obama and Bush

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/us-drone-strike-targeting-isis-killed-afghan-farmers-instead-2019-9%3famp

His ability to help with socialism was nice when he had to bail out corporate farmers because of his tariffs.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/14/donald-trump-coronavirus-farmer-bailouts-359932

Speaking of socialism, remove any transparency.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2020/04/07/coronavirus-relief-trump-removes-inspector-general-overseeing-2-trillion-package.html

Speaking of transparency and circling back to drone strikes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/amp/world-us-canada-47480207
 

Trump called out the military industrial complex recently. That was a nice touch.... but like a true con man, his words seemed pretty contradicting to his actions.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/09/08/trump-military-defense-industry-booster-410396

Some of this is pretty reprehensible and other stuff just shows how much of an insider Trump really is despite the claims he’s not.

[tdawg87]

Kevin is the Republican this forum needs, but doesn't deserve.

[RallyMo]

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

There’s plenty of blame on both sides with the CoVid.

I’ll grant the children at the border issue being one I would have thought about a different way to approach.  Children should not be separated. 

It’s not so much Trump as who is the likely alternative in the WH: Harris/Pelosi?    No thank you 

I do dream one day of having both parties put out candidates that are known for consensus governing with minimal lobbyist and extremist backers.   

Okay, the impossible dream, going out to find windmills now

 

4 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

He did condemn them three times at the first debate. 

lol, ok AO2020.

I know responses like this likely reinforce your new position, but he's done a decent number of reprehensible things. With that said, "reprehensible" ought not be the line that has to be crossed for one to say "maybe this guy isn't worthy of my support."

[gotbeer]

5 hours ago, Angel Oracle said:

He did condemn them three times at the first debate. 

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ 

Of course this will be ignored by the left like it has been.  He's a racist.

[Rico]

27 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ 

Of course this will be ignored by the left like it has been.  He's a racist.

He also told them to step back and standby. 

[Jason]

31 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ 

Of course this will be ignored by the left like it has been.  He's a racist.

This narrative works for them so they will keep using it. 

[Rico]

12 minutes ago, Jason said:

This narrative works for them so they will keep using it. 

Remember this little bit of Trump history?

[tdawg87]

45 minutes ago, gotbeer said:

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/trump-has-condemned-white-supremacists/ 

Of course this will be ignored by the left like it has been.  He's a racist.

Correct.

[St1ck]

12 minutes ago, Rico said:

Remember this little bit of Trump history?

Technically AO's question was asking about since he has become president. 

Well we got a new one today. Now he wants to lock up state governors. Probably just because he's an "outsider" though.

Trump Rally Crowd Chants ‘Lock Her Up’ About Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, Target of Kidnapping Plot
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-rally-crowd-chants-lock-her-up-about-michigan-gov-whitmer-target-of-kidnapping-plot

[tdawg87]

Imagine seeing that and being proud that he's your president.

I can see Chuck sitting on his laptop, drinking a glass of wine, watching that video and getting that feeling in his gut that he gets when the Angels are playing well. It's one part pride, one part excitement. It's a great feeling.