Swing Rate

[Stradling]

Someone posted earlier this week that the Angels had the lowest swing rate in the league, along with the fewest strike outs.  To me if they can keep this up that would be awesome.  We all hate the long games that Boston and NY play, but what I really like is the way they work the count, which I would assume low swing rates would accomplish.  

All that being said, can someone please tell this to Simmons, he certainly seems to be popping up a ton of first pitches.  

[Vlad27Trout27]

Simmons is in the pull happy mode, which is not his strengths. I would rather him go center to Right.

Also has Cahloiun fallen into pull happy mode aswell?

[Taylor]

5 minutes ago, Vlad27Trout27 said:

Also has Cahloiun fallen into pull happy mode aswell?

Has Calhoun ever not been in pull-happy mode?

[mp170.6]

Mickey Hatcher is rolling over in his grave

[floplag]

I think there are a lot of variable in this number not known.
Right now our on base % as a team is 293, 22nd in mlb.   We have drawn 44 walks, 19th in mlb. 
Having the lowest swing rate and still be in in the bottom third on those 2 numbers could just suggest they are taking too many pitches trying to work the stats as the results arent where they should be from that number.

[Stradling]

18 minutes ago, mp170.6 said:

Mickey Hatcher is rolling over in his grave

I still can’t believe he died.  

[Stradling]

2 minutes ago, floplag said:

I think there are a lot of variable in this number not known.
Right now our on base % as a team is 293, 22nd in mlb.   We have drawn 44 walks, 19th in mlb. 
Having the lowest swing rate and still be in in the bottom third on those 2 numbers could just suggest they are taking too many pitches trying to work the stats as the results arent where they should be from that number.

All of those things improve when we have major league players return, like Upton and Ohtani.  Sure the walks are great, but getting to a bullpen early is always a good thing.  Like we have said many times as it relates to the Angels, if you overwork a pen it has a lasting affect on a team that goes beyond that game.  

[mp170.6]

10 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I still can’t believe he died.  

So sad!

[Tank]

17 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I still can’t believe he died.  

The eulogy from Ralston Schmidt was pure poetry.

[Stradling]

8 minutes ago, Tank said:

The eulogy from Ralston Schmidt was pure poetry.

Obviously.  I wanted to walk up and say a few words, but Hatcher wasn’t a fan of walking, so in honor of him I gave myself a hot foot.  

[Stradling]

So I am guessing Yunel Escobar and Juan Rivera had very bigly swing rates. 

[Tank]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Obviously.  I wanted to walk up and say a few words, but Hatcher wasn’t a fan of walking, so in honor of him I gave myself a hot foot.  

[floplag]

38 minutes ago, Stradling said:

All of those things improve when we have major league players return, like Upton and Ohtani.  Sure the walks are great, but getting to a bullpen early is always a good thing.  Like we have said many times as it relates to the Angels, if you overwork a pen it has a lasting affect on a team that goes beyond that game.  

The missing guys have nothing to do with the listed stat though.

[Taylor]

24 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Obviously.  I wanted to walk up and say a few words, but Hatcher wasn’t a fan of walking, so in honor of him I gave myself a hot foot.  

It was a very aggressive funeral.

[Stradling]

10 minutes ago, floplag said:

The missing guys have nothing to do with the listed stat though.

True, but you can tell just by watching the games that this is a team philosophy, and can at least assume those guys will follow suit.  

[Stradling]

It is super early, but as I expected Simmons has a career low in pitches per plate appearance to start the season.  

[ettin]

56 minutes ago, Stradling said:

I still can’t believe he died.  

Passerby: "Hey Mickey! Looks like someone done and gone walked over your grave!"

Mickey: "Walks are a false stat!"

[Docwaukee]

we have the third lowest out of zone swing % so far.  

dogs, M's, Angels, Phils, A's.  

we have the lowest swing% and the lowest swinging strike% 

 

[Taylor]

41 minutes ago, ettin said:

Passerby: "Hey Mickey! Looks like someone done and gone walked over your grave!"

Mickey: "Walks are a false stat!"

Or, as his 1012 ancestor Mickus Hatcherus once said, "Walks are a fallacious stratagem."

He was later beheaded by his sons.

[ten ocho recon scout]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Or, as his 1012 ancestor Mickus Hatcherus once said, "Walks are a fallacious stratagem."

He was later beheaded by his sons.

To be fair, that was back when people were castrated for religion. So four balls were reallllly hated.

[Inside Pitch]

3 hours ago, floplag said:

I think there are a lot of variable in this number not known.
Right now our on base % as a team is 293, 22nd in mlb.   We have drawn 44 walks, 19th in mlb. 
Having the lowest swing rate and still be in in the bottom third on those 2 numbers could just suggest they are taking too many pitches trying to work the stats as the results arent where they should be from that number.

Babip.... .227, dead last in mlb.   .300ish is the norm...   

Their OBP is 80 points better than their average.   If they were hitting .260 and not .210, then we'd be looking at a top 10 OBP.

 

[floplag]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

True, but you can tell just by watching the games that this is a team philosophy, and can at least assume those guys will follow suit.  

im not knocking the philosophy per se, only that a low swing rate that doesnt equate into higher obp and more walks doesnt seem to be the expected outcome.
If we have the lowest swing rate effectively, we should have higher values in those categories, we dont.  
This would seem to suggest at a glance that we are taking too many good pitches.
 

[floplag]

23 minutes ago, Inside Pitch said:

Babip.... .227, dead last in mlb.   .300ish is the norm...   

Their OBP is 80 points better than their average.   If they were hitting .260 and not .210, then we'd be looking at a top 10 OBP.

 

Perhaps, likely even, all im saying is that a low swing rate that isnt producing more walks seems to suggest taking too many good pitches.

[Stradling]

Of course it leads to more walks. 

[floplag]

8 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Of course it leads to more walks. 

Thus my point, it hasnt. 
#1 lowest swing rate and bottom third in walks doesnt seem to jive with that statement.