Angels the "Mystery Team" in on Machado?

[Thomas]

19 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

Or....

Maybe they could actually talk to Trout and tell him the plan.

Communicate? Ugh...you sound like my wife.

[Angelsfan1984]

Well now that the Eagles have been eliminated, i'm sure Trout is much more involved in the offseason discussions.

[Broad Street]

I wonder if the Brewers are in on Machado.

[Stradling]

27 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

Quick question for all those that instantly conclude the Angels can't afford multiple big contracts. . .

How is it that the Nationals are still openly acknowledged as a viable landing spot for Harper considering all the massive contracts they have?

Boras?

[Angelsfan1984]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Boras?

I was going to say the same thing. From my experience if you want to know where the info came from, look for who is to benefit the most from it.

[Taylor]

23 minutes ago, Kody Mac said:

I wonder if the Brewers are in on Machado.

Or even the Bruhaus.

[DMVol]

14 minutes ago, Dtwncbad said:

.....For me, this all about the age.

Fair point....different situations for sure....just not sure I want that much money tied up right now...

[ettin]

1 hour ago, totdprods said:

I believe it.

Look I have always stated it is a real longshot but the Angels could conceivably do this with early opt outs after the first or second year.

Not saying it is right or wrong but it could be possible. Notably by going short term the Angels limit their commitment and Manny can play for a year or two and rebuild that image. 

[Erstad Grit]

Touchdown! 

 

[Pujols4MVP]

If the Angels match the Whitesox offer, he has to choose the Angels right ? Does he really want to be apart of a 95 to 100 loss team in Chicago ?

[Angel Oracle]

1 hour ago, Stradling said:

Boras?

Yep, Boras, the ultimate spin doctor

[Angel Oracle]

2 minutes ago, Pujols4MVP said:

If the Angels match the Whitesox offer, he has to choose the Angels right ? Does he really want to be apart of a 95 to 100 loss team in Chicago ?

Do the Halos really want his attitude problems?    Not to mention only 2-3 really good seasons out of 6 so far, for 8 years/$240 million? 

[Pujols4MVP]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

Do the Halos really want his attitude problems?    Not to mention only 2-3 really good seasons out of 6 so far, for 8 years/$240 million? 

Well at that price he can go to Chicago & enjoy Deep Dish Pizza while the WhiteSox lose 100 games next year.

[failos]

6 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Do the Halos really want his attitude problems?    Not to mention only 2-3 really good seasons out of 6 so far, for 8 years/$240 million? 

It'll be worth the trouble, I don't like him either, but the team would be amazing with a 3B like Machado. I hope it happens.

[Stradling]

So if the Angels do get involved you’d have to think it will be at the expense of a Simmons extension.  Eppler could let a then 31 year old Simmons walk, depending on the state of Albert or Ohtani.  

[Pancake Bear]

4 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Do the Halos really want his attitude problems?    Not to mention only 2-3 really good seasons out of 6 so far, for 8 years/$240 million? 

My concerns with him are twofold: Biggest by far are his reported attitude issues. A guy like that is going to be the last person you want in your clubhouse during a slump. Second, his performance out of the AL East. His average dropped over 40 points (to .273) going to the Dodgers (a better comp for how he'd do in Anaheim than Baltimore would be) in just over 1/3 of a season, while his OBP dropped nearly 50 points to .338 - that's still solid enough, but is it worth 30mil a year? I'd still be fine with it if his reported clubhouse issues weren't there, but I'm not dying to sign him either.

[Angel Oracle]

5 minutes ago, Stradling said:

So if the Angels do get involved you’d have to think it will be at the expense of a Simmons extension.  Eppler could let a then 31 year old Simmons walk, depending on the state of Albert or Ohtani.  

All things considered....Simba >>>> Machado, even being 3 years older (29 vs 26).

[beatlesrule]

Arte Moreno

2:42

Am I guaranteeing Trouts departure in a few years by not shelling out the money to field a legitimate contender?

 

Tim Dierkes

2:42

Certainly not guaranteeing it, but definitely increasing the chances of him thinking the grass is greener on the other side.  The Angels have held the same payroll for three years running - how do they defend that?

[Stradling]

Probably not him?

[Angel Oracle]

3 minutes ago, beatlesrule said:

Arte Moreno

2:42

Am I guaranteeing Trouts departure in a few years by not shelling out the money to field a legitimate contender?

 

Tim Dierkes

2:42

Certainly not guaranteeing it, but definitely increasing the chances of him thinking the grass is greener on the other side.  The Angels have held the same payroll for three years running - how do they defend that?

By being close to having the right young players (Adell, Marsh, Rengifo, Canning, Suarez, Sandoval, etc.) playing at the MLB level, and then filling in around them?

Dierkes obviously wasn't at the seminar where people learn that it takes 4-5 seasons to totally rebuild a dormant farm system.   Year 4 is starting.

[jessecrall]

3 minutes ago, Sean-Regan said:

My concerns with him are twofold: Biggest by far are his reported attitude issues. A guy like that is going to be the last person you want in your clubhouse during a slump. Second, his performance out of the AL East. His average dropped over 40 points (to .273) going to the Dodgers (a better comp for how he'd do in Anaheim than Baltimore would be) in just over 1/3 of a season, while his OBP dropped nearly 50 points to .338 - that's still solid enough, but is it worth 30mil a year? I'd still be fine with it if his reported clubhouse issues weren't there, but I'm not dying to sign him either.

It should be noted that Machado's defense did a complete 180 with the Dodgers and so even with the drop in offense, he was more valuable on a per-game basis with the Dogs than he was with the Orioles in 2018. Not that I'm advocating signing him, nor do I think the Angels will...

[Jay]

I read this on mlb.com today

5 potential mystery teams for Manny, Bryce

https://www.mlb.com/news/bryce-harper-manny-machado-mystery-teams/c-302668828

Angels not on the list.

If the Angels are going to be a mystery team I would prefer that they are in on Harper.

[Tank]

25 minutes ago, Pujols4MVP said:

If the Angels match the Whitesox offer, he has to choose the Angels right ? Does he really want to be apart of a 95 to 100 loss team in Chicago ?

if you're machado, you really have to ask yourself who you'd like to play with - trout, ohtani, and adell (and instantly make them a serious contender) or a bunch of nobody's in chicago. 

at least the angels have a good deal of promise.

[stormngt]

2 hours ago, Dtwncbad said:

Tim Dierkes says he might GUESS the Angels could be the mystery team in pursuing Machado.  He admits it is simply a guess based on history, need/fit, and ability to sign.

Worth mentioning.

When the hell were we ever "the mystery team"

[Pancake Bear]

14 minutes ago, stormngt said:

When the hell were we ever "the mystery team"

Pujols, for one.