Angels compete by what year?

[floplag]

If the plan is to develop what we have and wait for that to happen, were looking at 21-ish  You know the year after Trout leaves by FA and Pujols retires.  
Realistically we could next year if they got bold, but thats not in them i dont think if the priority is getting durable arms that means they will wait for the bats and we wont catch up for at least 2-3 years. 
 

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

1 hour ago, Scotty@AW said:

....Pujols will both be gone. 

2020, this team is going to be hard to beat. 

Unless Pujols retires early he'll be here until 2022.

[The Ghost of Bob Starr]

4009.  

[CDiaz27?]

2 hours ago, Kevinb said:

Do you think when Adell and Canning arrive that they will both be in contention for rookie of the year?

Probably Adell, if he keeps developing into the type of player we all think he will be 

[floplag]

i find this thread depressing, if were waiting that long, were doing it without trout.  Hes not waiting another 2-3 years, no way no how 

 

[Stradling]

1 hour ago, floplag said:

If the plan is to develop what we have and wait for that to happen, were looking at 21-ish  You know the year after Trout leaves by FA and Pujols retires.  
Realistically we could next year if they got bold, but thats not in them i dont think if the priority is getting durable arms that means they will wait for the bats and we wont catch up for at least 2-3 years. 
 

Trout isn’t leaving.

[OhtaniSan]

We should be competing in 2019. We should make the necessary moves to make that happen.

1. Sign Machado

2. Trade for Realmuto

3. Sign a Starter (Reliable: Sabathia, Wild Card: Harvey)

Those moves ensure we compete for 2019. By 2020, we have some internal upgrades (Canning and Adell should become key contributors) and can fill other spots as needed. 

 

[floplag]

2 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Trout isn’t leaving.

Apparently the part about winning being huge to him was either ignored or overlooked.
WE have 2 more year and literally no one here thinks we compete wining that time frame so... the math isnt hard, 1+2=2

[tdawg87]

Just now, floplag said:

Apparently the part about winning being huge to him was either ignored or overlooked.
WE have 2 more year and literally no one here thinks we compete wining that time frame so... the math isnt hard, 1+2=2

Name a single player who doesn't want to win. 

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

Apparently the part about winning being huge to him was either ignored or overlooked.
WE have 2 more year and literally no one here thinks we compete wining that time frame so... the math isnt hard, 1+2=2

Oh ok.  I will assume he will sign an extension before he knows whether or not we are going to win in 2020 or 2021.  

[OhtaniSan]

How often do teams get a chance to add a 26-year-old superstar, who will only get better, and not lose any prospect currency in doing so? 

How often is one of the top catchers in baseball with multiple years of team control on the trade market?

These are moves the Angels can make to provide immediate and long-term help. 

[floplag]

8 minutes ago, tdawg87 said:

Name a single player who doesn't want to win. 

It doesnt matter, this one player is on record saying winning is huge to him to stay.  Assuming he stays when we are not winning is ostrich syndrome.  

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, OhtaniSan said:

How often do teams get a chance to add a 26-year-old superstar, who will only get better, and not lose any prospect currency in doing so? 

How often is one of the top catchers in baseball with multiple years of team control on the trade market?

These are moves the Angels can make to provide immediate and long-term help. 

When the catcher might cost them the #2 prospect in baseball and another top 100 player.  

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, OhtaniSan said:

How often do teams get a chance to add a 26-year-old superstar, who will only get better, and not lose any prospect currency in doing so? 

The Cubs got that chance and are probably kicking themselves.

[floplag]

6 minutes ago, Stradling said:

Oh ok.  I will assume he will sign an extension before he knows whether or not we are going to win in 2020 or 2021.  

ok that seems like you are contradicting yourself.  

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

Foesnt matter, this one player is on record saying winning is huge to him to stay.  Assuming he stays when we are not winning is ostrich syndrome.  

He will get extended.  

[tdawg87]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

Foesnt matter, this one player is on record saying winning is huge to him to stay. 

Link?

Again, everyone wants to win. Did Upton not want to win?

[floplag]

Just now, Stradling said:

He will get extended.  

Yes i know you think that, my question is why?  Hes made it clear winning is huge and we arent going to win in the next couple years so... why would he sign?

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

ok that seems like you are contradicting yourself.  

Yea, that isn’t a great sentence.  My thought is he will sign an extension prior to knowing whether or not we will be winning in those years.  

[Stradling]

Just now, floplag said:

Yes i know you think that, my question is why?  Hes made it clear winning is huge and we arent going to win in the next couple years so... why would he sign?

Because he likes it here, he believes in Eppler and he will struggle to turn down a huge money deal.  

[floplag]

Just now, tdawg87 said:

Link?

Again, everyone wants to win. Did Upton not want to win?

it was just like 2 days ago and was covered on these forums at length.   beleive me or beleive google 
https://www.ocregister.com/2018/09/30/mike-trout-says-winning-is-huge-in-determining-his-future-plans-but-believes-angels-are-trying/

[floplag]

Just now, Stradling said:

Because he likes it here, he believes in Eppler and he will struggle to turn down a huge money deal.  

Which goes against his on record comments, but i hope youre right

[Lou]

1 minute ago, Stradling said:

Because he likes it here, he believes in Eppler and he will struggle to turn down a huge money deal.  

and he heard tdawg might be moving here 

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, floplag said:

Which goes against his on record comments, but i hope youre right

It only goes against his comments if he doesn’t believe in Eppler and the Angels.  

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Lou said:

and he heard tdawg might be moving here 

Which is obviously super important