Another one bites the Dusty

[Troll Daddy]

Dusty gets axed after becoming the first Nat’s manager to win back to back division championships.

Nationals will be looking for their seventh manager since 2005.

 

[Jay]

This is how it works:

Dusty is Giants manger = they're bums

Dusty is fired = Giants win the championship!

Dusty is Cubs manager = they're bums

Dusty is fired = Cubs win the championship!

Dusty is Nats manger = they're bums

Dusty is fired = ???

 

[arch stanton]

That only works if the Reds win one first 

[VariousCrap]

It amazes me that Dusty still gets hired.  The dude is proven trash in the post-season.

[Chuck]

Dusty Baker is one of only 19 managers to ever manage 50 playoff games, but he hasn't found much success in October. pic.twitter.com/lZF2WmFfcC

— ESPN Stats & Info (@ESPNStatsInfo) October 20, 2017

[Blarg]

I wonder how many managers never got their teams to a playoff in the last 20 years and if Dusty could have at least got them that far. Not that I'm wanting him for the Angels but success is not always perfection.

[arch stanton]

There was no mystery involved with hiring Dusty. They knew what they were getting 

[m0nkey]

Had to see this coming.  

 

Plus hitting jayson werth second in a playoff series in 2017 is just ridiculous.  Would've lost the series anyway, but just not the mind of a major league manager

[Angelsfan1984]

Kudos to the organization for not accepting mediocrity. Now if only we could get the same from our owner.

[Blarg]

You really don't understand the meaning of the word mediocrity. 

The Tigers were mediocre. The A's, Reds, Phillies and Giants were truly mediocre baseball teams.

The Nationals won 97 games. That's pretty damn good. They didn't make the World Series but every year 28 teams don't. Only 6 teams make the playoffs and only 4 teams win their division. The Nationals we're one of the four.

Baker may not have led them to the promised land but even with Harper out for a month and Strasberg playing head games he kept the team together. 

Maybe he is a 162 game manager. Who knows but after Baker started as manager Harper stopped having fights with his own teammates and fewer incidents on the field. 

He is taking the blame for not beating the Cubs. It's not like he was on a long term contract, the Nationals haven't kept a manager more than two years since Frank Robinson took naps in the dugout. That is more of a reflection on the franchise more than the manager 

 

[Angelsfan1984]

32 minutes ago, Blarg said:

You really don't understand the meaning of the word mediocrity. 

The Tigers were mediocre. The A's, Reds, Phillies and Giants were truly mediocre baseball teams.

The Nationals won 97 games. That's pretty damn good. They didn't make the World Series but every year 28 teams don't. Only 6 teams make the playoffs and only 4 teams win their division. The Nationals we're one of the four.

Baker may not have led them to the promised land but even with Harper out for a month and Strasberg playing head games he kept the team together. 

Maybe he is a 162 game manager. Who knows but after Baker started as manager Harper stopped having fights with his own teammates and fewer incidents on the field. 

He is taking the blame for not beating the Cubs. It's not like he was on a long term contract, the Nationals haven't kept a manager more than two years since Frank Robinson took naps in the dugout. That is more of a reflection on the franchise more than the manager 

 

I absolutely understand the meaning of mediocrity. Its not okay to be just good enough to get into the playoffs. They have not made a deep playoff run. Its not okay to accept excuses for the teams failures. Status quo is not accepted. There is no participation award for everyone. When you have a team built to win it all anything less than the ultimate goal is unacceptable. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that? Make progress and move toward the ultimate goal or move on.

[m0nkey]

55 minutes ago, Blarg said:

Baker may not have led them to the promised land but even with Harper out for a month and Strasberg playing head games he kept the team together. 

 

Doesn't hurt playing in the NL East and having Max Scherzer, Daniel Murphy, and Anthony Rendon while Ryan Zimmerman and Gio Gonzalez had their best season after years of pedestrian numbers.

[Inside Pitch]

26 minutes ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I absolutely understand the meaning of mediocrity. Its not okay to be just good enough to get into the playoffs. They have not made a deep playoff run. Its not okay to accept excuses for the teams failures. Status quo is not accepted. There is no participation award for everyone. When you have a team built to win it all anything less than the ultimate goal is unacceptable. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that? Make progress and move toward the ultimate goal or move on.

A team built to win it all..    Jokes!

 

[Stradling]

The team had a garbage bullpen.  Look at the Dodgers, the Yankees.  Those teams have great bullpens.  

[TooCool]

2 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

Kudos to the organization for not accepting mediocrity. Now if only we could get the same from our owner.

Right? If only.

[Stradling]

I feel horribly sad for people that think managers are the reason teams with injuries and lack of talent don't go to the post season or make deep runs.  It makes me wonder what kind of employees these people are because they certainly aren't managers.  

[Stradling]

12 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Dave Roberts was able to get the Dodgers to the World Series with basically the same team, that Don Mattling managed. Some people don't get it.

No, he has a much different team.  He has an entirely new bullpen minus Jansen.  He has a new 2nd baseman, new 1st baseman, Alex Wood, Darvish.  Oh and Justin Turner is having a career year.  

[daygloman]

6 hours ago, Troll Daddy said:

Dusty gets axed after becoming the first Nat’s manager to win back to back division championships.

Nationals will be looking for their seventh manager since 2005.

 

That's fucked up.

[Angel Oracle]

7 hours ago, Chuckster70 said:

Seems that Lasorda's proteges Sosh and Baker (as he said during the 2002 WS DVD) haven't done all that well in the post-season.   Coincidence? 

[Angel Oracle]

2 hours ago, Stradling said:

The team had a garbage bullpen.  Look at the Dodgers, the Yankees.  Those teams have great bullpens.  

And hopefully, Eppler continues his push towards having a great bullpen ultimately.

[Blarg]

3 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I absolutely understand the meaning of mediocrity. Its not okay to be just good enough to get into the playoffs. They have not made a deep playoff run. Its not okay to accept excuses for the teams failures. Status quo is not accepted. There is no participation award for everyone. When you have a team built to win it all anything less than the ultimate goal is unacceptable. Why is it so hard for you guys to understand that? Make progress and move toward the ultimate goal or move on.

97 wins isn't just good enough to get to the playoffs. It was taking their divsion without a fight. Damn you are a stubborn mule. 

[Blarg]

1 hour ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

Do the ANGELS  win the 2002 World Series if Dusty  isn't the manager of the Giants? 

If Dusty wasn't the manager of the Giants in 2002, do they make the playoffs? You see, Bob, you are playing a game you can't win because you can't rewrite history just because you hated the outcome. Oh, and the following season Felipe Alou didn't make it through the playoffs so that might be a little hint.

How sad it must be for you the Angels actually won a World Series with an ex Dodger as manager. The rest of us have been pretty fucking happy about seeing one in their lifetime.

 

Edited October 21, 2017 by Blarg

[Ace-Of-Diamonds]

3 hours ago, Angelsfan1984 said:

I absolutely understand the meaning of mediocrity.

I'm not sure you do, finishing 4th out of 30 doesn't meet the definition.

me·di·o·cre

ˌmēdēˈōkər/

adjective

adjective: mediocre

1. of only moderate quality; not very good.

   "a mediocre actor"

   synonyms:

   ordinary, average, middling, middle-of-the-road, uninspired, undistinguished, indifferent, unexceptional, unexciting, unremarkable, run-of-the-mill, pedestrian, prosaic, lackluster, forgettable, amateur, amateurish;

[Blarg]

Then please tell me why would you even question to the legitimacy of the Angels World Championship? 

[Amazing Larry]

26 minutes ago, ANAHEIMBOB said:

I didn't  hate the outcome ,  I'm  willing to bet I have been to more angel games then anyone that post here. It does make me the smartest  fan,  but a big fan. 

This is highly doubtful. Some people that post here work for the organization buddy.