Angels' Garrett Richards: Will undergo exam Monday

[Ohtaniland]

It's just a cramp they said. Nothing to worry about they said. Won't miss a start they said. 

[fan_since79]

12 hours ago, CALZONE said:

It's just a cramp they said. Nothing to worry about they said. Won't miss a start they said. 

Day-to-day.

That's geological time though. He'll be ready for soft toss by the next eon.

[AngelStew43]

Nerves can regenerate at approximately 1/16-1/8 of an inch per month, according to my facial surgeon, so progress can be quite slow.

[Farmbuildingfan]

The word " improvement" is general,  and doesn't really tell us much.

It could mean 10% improved to 90% improved, with the former probably being closer to reality.

 

[arch stanton]

Upon what do you base that probability?

[Farmbuildingfan]

49 minutes ago, arch stanton said:

Upon what do you base that probability?

Based on the Angel's luck with starting pitchers, and that there are still no educated guesses for a return date.

[arch stanton]

So after 3 months, about 13 weeks, they now want to evaluate weekly. So 13X more frequently which tells me they must think he's more than 90% of where they want him to be. That's about as educated as any guess that isn't tinged with fatalism and snivelry

[vlad27]

I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he will end up having tommy John anyway - he took quite a gamble with his career - so let's say he gets it in the fall then he's out for 2 years - never pitches again for the Angels . 

 Gets picked up on a one year deal by the A's has a dominant season which leads to a 3 year deal with a better team only to go on the DL and Never return . 

 I hope im wrong he has such talent - I just see this going wrong for us 

[vlad27]

On 7/6/2017 at 11:20 AM, Chuckster70 said:

Richards (biceps) is scheduled for a full evaluation next Monday and could be cleared to throw if all goes well, Jeff Fletcher of the Orange County Register reports.

Even so, Richards would still require a couple weeks of long toss and bullpen sessions before he will even be able to embark on a rehab assignment. It's good that Richards continues to show progress, but he will still likely be out until mid-August.

I can't imagine that he will throw another pitch in a game this season - hope I'm wrong 

[vlad27]

On 7/6/2017 at 1:00 PM, yk9001 said:

I swear to god, I cannot keep our pitchers' twinges, sorenesses, dehydrations and tightnesses straight.

Interesting that the guy who had to have brain surgery Has thrown more pitches and has been in more games than Richards/ Skaggs 

[Angel Oracle]

9 hours ago, vlad27 said:

I can't imagine that he will throw another pitch in a game this season - hope I'm wrong 

Best case scenario imo is returning close to mid-September, IF all goes as expected tomorrow.

[Angel Oracle]

Regarding Richards' Monday exam results....

Well?   We're waiting!

[Jobu]

On 7/9/2017 at 0:59 AM, vlad27 said:

Interesting that the guy who had to have brain surgery Has thrown more pitches and has been in more games than Richards/ Skaggs 

You don't use your brain to pitch.

[Chuck]

@Jeff Fletcher?

[Jeff Fletcher]

29 minutes ago, Angel Oracle said:

Regarding Richards' Monday exam results....

Well?   We're waiting!

The exam was moved up to Friday. The results were "improved, but not ready to throw."

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/07/angels-notes-matt-shoemaker-shut-down-with-nerve-issue/

[Ohtaniland]

17 minutes ago, Jeff Fletcher said:

The exam was moved up to Friday. The results were "improved, but not ready to throw."

http://www.ocregister.com/2017/07/07/angels-notes-matt-shoemaker-shut-down-with-nerve-issue/

I think they'll check the standings at about mid-August to determine if it's even worth pitching him this season. He's facing his Arb4 year so it's a huge blow to him financially. This seasons setback cost him a lucrative long term deal.

[Jeff Fletcher]

12 minutes ago, CALZONE said:

I think they'll check the standings at about mid-August to determine if it's even worth pitching him this season. He's facing his Arb4 year so it's a huge blow to him financially. This seasons setback cost him a lucrative long term deal.

I think the "drop dead date" is before that. I have to believe if he hasn't thrown a ball by the end of July, that's it for 2017.

[vlad27]

1 hour ago, Jobu said:

You don't use your brain to pitch.

Hmmm - I'd say you do - plus to overcome the fear of it happening again takes a strong person to get back out there . 

[vlad27]

1 hour ago, CALZONE said:

I think they'll check the standings at about mid-August to determine if it's even worth pitching him this season. He's facing his Arb4 year so it's a huge blow to him financially. This seasons setback cost him a lucrative long term deal.

Should've just got the tommy John and been on his way to recovery like Heaney is - I'll bet he ends up having the surgery this offseason - such a bummer for us but especially for him - again I hope I'm wrong 

[tomsred]

34 minutes ago, vlad27 said:

Should've just got the tommy John and been on his way to recovery like Heaney is - I'll bet he ends up having the surgery this offseason - such a bummer for us but especially for him - again I hope I'm wrong 

Just what does an irritated nerve in his biceps have to do with Tommy John surgery?  Just asking......

I hope you are not a doctor, because if I came to you for erectile disfunction you would probably do heart surgery.

[wopphil]

This is such an odd and seemingly bad injury that I have to believe even once he reaches full improvement, he is highly likely to quickly reaggravate the injury. 

Is there another pitcher - anyone - who has had this same injury in the last 20 years?

[DMVol]

19 minutes ago, wopphil said:

....Is there another pitcher - anyone - who has had this same injury in the last 20 years?

Brad Penny and Chris Carpenter....

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2017/05/garrett-richards-aiming-for-late-season-return.html

[Angel Oracle]

Soooo, how is it that Richards' nerve injury wasn't as bad as Penny's and Carpenter's, yet Penny only missed TWO months and Carpenter even less time???????

[Stradling]

1 minute ago, Angel Oracle said:

Soooo, how is it that Richards' nerve injury wasn't as bad as Penny's and Carpenter's, yet Penny only missed TWO months and Carpenter even less time???????

He throws 5 mph harder?

[Angels#1Fan]

It's doubtful that Richards will pitch again this year.

Richards has not yet been cleared to start pitching again and the window for him to have enough time to get ready is closing rapidly.