Calolfornia

[Tank]

20 hours ago, Adam said:

Chicago is a $15/hr min wage town.  They have to charge a bunch there because if driver earnings aren’t 15/he before tips and after expenses they will be flooded by wage claims and class actions. Despite IC status you want to eliminate those causes of action as best you can.

Drivers pre-prop 22 made more $ in CA. They make more under it than they would as W2s but it’s still enough of a cut that fewer want to do it
 

 

 

Do you think further legal action will be needed to fix some of the problems that have arisen from all of this in CA?

[Adam]

9 minutes ago, Tank said:

Do you think further legal action will be needed to fix some of the problems that have arisen from all of this in CA?

Unless California moves to the center or right politically there won’t be any fixing any of this. 

Ultimately we will end up in a situation where gig companies pay into unemployment.

they do this already in Oregon and a couple of other States. I think provided the gig companies can avoid FICA, WC and mandatory health benefits they’d be happy to pay into unemployment and have income guarantees. 

[Taylor]

Imagine companies treating their employees like employees. 

[Kotchman]

6 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Imagine companies treating their employees like employees. 

Sounds like the church isn’t paying you enough 

[Taylor]

2 hours ago, Kotchman said:

Sounds like the church isn’t paying you enough 

Thankfully I'm an employee not a contractor. We do have contractors who work with us, but most of them are freelancers with multiple gigs.

[Adam]

27 minutes ago, cals said:

This decision was based on WC benefits.  They’re not getting out of paying for WC.

Sure they are

[Adam]

2 hours ago, Taylor said:

Imagine companies treating their employees like employees. 

That goes both ways

[Taylor]

3 minutes ago, Adam said:

That goes both ways

Employees treating their employers like employers?

[Kotchman]

23 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Thankfully I'm an employee not a contractor. We do have contractors who work with us, but most of them are freelancers with multiple gigs.

I hear the churches in Cali pay pretty well. My son said the ministry  kids some of the richest in college. I was expecting lawyers and doctors 

[Adam]

8 minutes ago, cals said:

Wanna bet?

I will bet you a 24 of your favorite stone brew that when all is said abd done prop 22 will stand, which only requires they make occacc available 

[Adam]

12 minutes ago, Taylor said:

Employees treating their employers like employers?

You think these companies should treat these workers like you and I are treated by our employers. That would also mean - scheduling, operational and financial controls given to the companies. Drivers would have hours capped, could not decline jobs, would lose tips other than cash tips which would be infrequent, would lose ability deduct expenses on taxes. 

[Tank]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

Unless California moves to the center or right politically there won’t be any fixing any of this. 

Ultimately we will end up in a situation where gig companies pay into unemployment.

they do this already in Oregon and a couple of other States. I think provided the gig companies can avoid FICA, WC and mandatory health benefits they’d be happy to pay into unemployment and have income guarantees. 

Thnx for the explanation.

[AngelsLongBall]

2 hours ago, cals said:

Miller lite

GTLF

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Kotchman said:

I hear the churches in Cali pay pretty well. My son said the ministry  kids some of the richest in college. I was expecting lawyers and doctors 

I make about 60% of what I'd make in a comparable "secular" job.

[Taylor]

3 hours ago, Adam said:

You think these companies should treat these workers like you and I are treated by our employers. That would also mean - scheduling, operational and financial controls given to the companies. Drivers would have hours capped, could not decline jobs, would lose tips other than cash tips which would be infrequent, would lose ability deduct expenses on taxes. 

Couldn't the companies continue allowing those things to happen?

Plus, their employees would be eligible for benefits.

 

[Kotchman]

Would be some shit if Kamala chooses Gavin as vp when Biden  falls down the stairs. 

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Kotchman said:

Would be some shit if Kamala chooses Gavin as vp when Biden  falls down the stairs. 

STFU!! Gross

[Kotchman]

2 minutes ago, Jason said:

STFU!! Gross

I assume it’s Obama. They didn’t stay in DC because it’s a nice place. Part of me doesn’t see mooshelle playing second fiddle to Kamala though. In that scenario Gavin will be in the mix 

[Adam]

1 hour ago, Taylor said:

Couldn't the companies continue allowing those things to happen?

Plus, their employees would be eligible for benefits.

 

They couldn’t afford to. 

[Taylor]

15 minutes ago, Adam said:

They couldn’t afford to. 

Yet they could afford to pump a collective $200M into manipulating the populace toward voting for Prop 22.

[Taylor]

Reminds me of Disney responding to Scarlet Johansson's lawsuit by saying they faced hard times during COVID, so it's okay that they put Black Widow on Disney+ cutting into her and the other actors' piece of the box office pie.

[Jason]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Reminds me of Disney responding to Scarlet Johansson's law suit by saying they faced hard times during COVID, so it's okay that they put Black Widow on Disney+ cutting into her and the other actors' piece of the box office pie.

I'd take a piece of that too

[Kotchman]

1 minute ago, Taylor said:

Reminds me of Disney responding to Scarlet Johansson's law suit by saying they faced hard times during COVID, so it's okay that they put Black Widow on Disney+ cutting into her and the other actors' piece of the box office pie.

Be careful with your words. Disney is very important mouth piece to the liberal propaganda machine

[Kotchman]

I think they gave her money to the new Captain America

[Adam]

13 hours ago, Taylor said:

Yet they could afford to pump a collective $200M into manipulating the populace toward voting for Prop 22.

Drop in the bucket compared to the permanent cost of FICA, WC, Health Insurance not to mention replacing all of their full time drivers who quit because they lose more than half their income and to the loss of revenue from customers who can't afford to pay $40 for a 5 mile ride.