Putin himself involved in US election hack: report

[Thomas]

Just now, arch stanton said:

Ok so who else has the means to manipulate Assange like that and the motive to do it? The list has to be pretty short

Manipulate Assange? You have something to support that? What if he is actually telling the truth that he only received information regarding the left and would have released information from the right if given any? Do you have anything?

[Adam]

Despite Red's poking, his point is pretty valid. Conservatives have traditionally held their middle-finger up to the rest of the world, especially Russia. While many of the high-profile cons are concerned about this the voting base is dug in against the left. 

[InsideThePark]

15 minutes ago, mtangelsfan said:

Most of those guys aren't even around anymore red.  Who are you specifically referring to? 

A lot of them seemed to have flipped, mt. Here's one example: 

Ignore the lame-ass shit in between - it was the best shortened version I could find.

[Adam]

7 minutes ago, red321 said:

I think my favorite part about 'independents' is the ability to ignore pretty much everything so they can say both sides do it and I'm better than those partisans. 

replace "ignore" with "expect" and your statement is completely accurate. 

[Adam]

1 minute ago, InsideThePark said:

A lot of them seemed to have flipped, mt. Here's one example: 

Ignore the lame-ass shit in between - it was the best shortened version I could find.

IWDHI

[arch stanton]

1 minute ago, Thomas said:

Manipulate Assange? You have something to support that? What if he is actually telling the truth that he only received information regarding the left and would have released information from the right if given any? Do you have anything?

And he had to time it like he did?  Why not just let it all out? If it wasn't to influence the election he could have just dumped it all at once

[InsideThePark]

Just now, Adam said:

IWDHI

Amen on that, brother.

[Thomas]

11 minutes ago, red321 said:

Every Republican voter over the age of 50. So, most of them. 

Actually 538 has a good article that dismisses this theory as a mostly incorrect stereotype.
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/all-of-a-sudden-russia-has-become-a-partisan-issue/

Until very very recently the two sides were rather consistent on their opinion of the former USSR/Russia. Not surprising considering the consistent scare tactics of the cold war propaganda in this country. What is old is new again I guess.

[Thomas]

Just now, arch stanton said:

And he had to time it like he did?  Why not just let it all out? If it wasn't to influence the election he could have just dumped it all at once

And you are privy to when he received the information?

[Adam]

Isn't the over 50 crowd mainly democratically elected democrats? 

[arch stanton]

3 minutes ago, Thomas said:

And you are privy to when he received the information?

So what was the aim of the timing, regardless of who was releasing?

[mtangelsfan]

8 minutes ago, InsideThePark said:

A lot of them seemed to have flipped, mt. Here's one example: 

Ignore the lame-ass shit in between - it was the best shortened version I could find.

Fair enough, Dana is a hypocrite.

[Adam]

I've heard some good John and Ken segments about that dude. 

[Jay]

On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is stealing Podesta's emails because he's an idiot, and 10 is hacking nuclear missiles or disrupting the power grid, this hack was a 1.

Not saying it should be ignored, go ahead and investigate, but don't turn it into a fake news story because you lost the election. The left are so transparent in their false outrage...

 

[mtangelsfan]

I will say this.  Lots of politicians change their opinions over time.  My guess is that Dana is just one in a long line of them who found their old position to be not conducive to moving forward in the party.

Still makes him a hypocritical douchebag though.

[Thomas]

1 minute ago, arch stanton said:

So what was the aim of the timing, regardless of who was releasing?

Good question. Do we have anything resembling supporting evidence to pick one over the numerous scenarios?

[Jay]

Rohrabacher should be the poster child for term limits. But he's preferable to sending a Democrat to the House.

 

[arch stanton]

3 minutes ago, Thomas said:

Good question. Do we have anything resembling supporting evidence to pick one over the numerous scenarios?

I don't work for the CIA or Crowdstrke. I don't know what they have. I do know that when you start considering motive, opportunity, and resources the list gets pretty small.

[Kevin]

30 minutes ago, Adam said:

Personally I think this is pretty serious stuff, but what I don't understand is that seemingly Obama is skating on this issue completely. This happened (presumably) under his watch and he's getting no heat. And, it is some pretty embarrassing stuff. Looks we need some more IT guys

It is 4:30 P.M. on a Friday for Obama.Trump's hanging out with Kanye.

America can only handle one or two distractions at a time. 

[Thomas]

Just now, arch stanton said:

I don't work for the CIA or Crowdstrke. I don't know what they have. I do know that when you start considering motive, opportunity, and resources the list gets pretty small.

I take it you've never ventured to the darkweb.

[RallyMo]

8 minutes ago, Jay said:

On a scale of 1-10 where 1 is stealing Podesta's emails because he's an idiot, and 10 is hacking nuclear missiles or disrupting the power grid, this hack was a 1.

I don't think you're stupid, but that's stupid. If they hacked a dude and a system that wasn't adequately protected (irrespective of the complexity of the attack) and then it was used to successfully influence the outcome of the Presidential election, then it's absostinkinglutely not a 1/10.

[Lou]

24 minutes ago, Adam said:

IWDHI

Don't be enamored with the suit and tie. You're better than that 

[Thomas]

Just now, RallyMo said:

I don't think you're stupid, but that's stupid. If they hacked a dude and a system that wasn't adequately protected (irrespective of the complexity of the attack) and then it was used to successfully influence the outcome of the Presidential election, then it's absostinkinglutely not a 1/10.

No, he's right.  This is baby stuff.

[arch stanton]

4 minutes ago, Thomas said:

I take it you've never ventured to the darkweb.

I don't get why they would use asshat as their conduit

[RallyMo]

Just now, Thomas said:

No, he's right.  This is baby stuff.

No way. If they successfully influenced the election, it's not baby stuff.